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‹ Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions

Housing crisis and alleged blame shift

Summary

Deputy Doherty accuses the Taoiseach of blaming homeless people and workers for the housing crisis and demands an apology. The Taoiseach denies blaming anyone, says Doherty misquoted him, and argues that some people refuse offers of accommodation for valid reasons.

Gabhaim buíochas leis an gCeann Comhairle. Inné, rinne an Taoiseach tráchtanna a rinne iarracht locht na géarchéime tithíochta a aistriú ón Rialtas go dtí na hoibrithe agus na teaghlaigh atá gan tithe. Goilleann d'fhocail orthu siúd atá gafa san éigeandáil tithíochta. Is ar Fhine Gael agus ar Fhianna Fáil atá an fhreagracht as an ngéarchéim seo agus ní ar oibrithe agus ar theaghlaigh atá gan tithe. The housing crisis has dominated life in Ireland for more than a decade now and many people are struggling to put a secure and affordable roof over their heads. This social catastrophe is ruining the potential and aspirations of an entire generation. Workers, families and our young people, who could never have imagined they would end up without a home, are living this nightmare through no fault of their own. It is a deeply traumatising experience for people who find themselves in this awful situation.

Yesterday, the Taoiseach twice made remarks that would cause real hurt and anger among those caught up in the housing crisis. The first was at a Government press conference on housing and then later on the floor of the Dáil, where he stated that very many people in emergency accommodation have refused offers of permanent housing. Not only is that remark untrue, it seeks to shift the blame for the Government's failed housing policies away from Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil and place it onto the victims of this crisis. It creates the impression that those faced with homelessness are choosing to be in this situation. This is not true for those living in emergency accommodation or, indeed, for those thousands of others who are sofa surfing or back in the box room of their parents' homes.

We have had cases, and the Taoiseach knows about these because we have spoken about them in the Dáil, of retail staff who work every single day, every hour that God sends, and still they find themselves in emergency accommodation. What about the nurse sleeping in her car with two children while she desperately searches for a home? What about the teachers evicted from their rented accommodation with no fall back option? These are people who, for more than a decade, have struggled to buy a home, endured extortionate rents and languished on social housing waiting lists year after year with no end in sight.

Can the Taoiseach, just for a moment, imagine how they felt yesterday when he stood here and they heard his remarks not just once but twice? He should apologise for those comments and he should do it today.

Workers and families are not at fault for not being able to put a roof over their heads and the Taoiseach knows this only too well. That fault lies with his Government. On the watch of Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil, house prices have gone through the roof, rents are out of control and social and affordable housing targets are far too low, and the Government has even failed to meet those low targets year after year. The Government's record is that 12,700 people are homeless and 3,700 children have nowhere to call a home in this State. This is a shameful record on the part of the parties in government and not that of the individuals who find themselves in this situation.

Fine Gael has now been in power for 12 years. For seven of those years, the party has been joined at the hip with Fianna Fáil. The policies these parties have implemented together over the course of the last decade have brought us to where we are today. The housing crisis and all the damage done to the lives of ordinary people is the greatest failure of this Government. Those caught up in the crisis are looking on at a Government with plenty of money and resources but which still cannot deliver the homes people need. Does the Taoiseach accept that he was wrong to try to shift the blame for the housing crisis onto the victims of this crisis? Will he apologise for this remark?

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Leo Varadkar The Taoiseach Fine Gael

I have just checked. First, the Deputy has misquoted me. Second, he has misrepresented me. I have never sought to blame anyone for the housing crisis or for homelessness, not the people who experience it nor the people who try to help them, whether this is the Government, the local authorities, NGOs or anyone else. The Deputy has misquoted and misrepresented me and-----

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Leo Varadkar The Taoiseach Fine Gael

-----this is bad politics as far as I am concerned, but let us move on.

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No, I have not. The Taoiseach said there were very many.

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Leo Varadkar The Taoiseach Fine Gael

I did not actually.

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Leo Varadkar The Taoiseach Fine Gael

I did not.

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Leo Varadkar The Taoiseach Fine Gael

Let us move on to the issue at hand. We are experiencing a very deep housing crisis in this State and we have done so now for quite some time. It affects lots of people in lots of different ways, whether it is people who are struggling to pay the rent, people who cannot find their first home to buy or people who have been living at home too long. I know this and I get it. I deal with this every day in my constituency service in trying to help people, as I am sure the Deputy does.

The Deputy wants to do something very simplistic. He wants to just blame it all on the Government. He makes out, for example, that the housing crisis has somehow been created by the Government or Government policy. This is far too simplistic. A large number of countries, unfortunately, are facing housing crises now, including in Northern Ireland. This happens for many different reasons. It is happening in Ireland because we have had a dramatic increase in population, we have smaller house sizes and we had a prolonged period, about seven years, during which almost no new homes were built in this State. This followed a financial crash when the Government was broke, the banks were bust and the construction industry was destroyed. Two thirds of construction workers had to leave the country. This is why we have a huge deficit of housing that we have this State.

This Government, and the one before it and the one before that, has done everything possible to turn this around. We are now, at long last, seeing some real progress. I know it is not enough but it is real progress and it is something I think the Deputy should acknowledge. Some 30,000 new homes were built last year, more than in any year in more than a decade. A record level of social housing is being built now, more than we have seen since the 1970s. The Deputy may not know this, but the proportion of people living in social housing is now higher than it was ten years ago. This is both in percentage terms and raw numbers.

We are also seeing a big increase in the number of first-time buyers and this is very encouraging. Each week, 700 people are getting mortgage approval and perhaps 400 to 500 people each week buying their first homes. We have not seen this happening in the best part of 20 years.

Instead of the Deputy misrepresenting and misquoting me, and trying to put words into my mouth and accusing me of blaming people I have never blamed for anything, he should at least acknowledge some of the progress that has been made in the past couple of years.

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The Taoiseach stood there yesterday and said that many people had refused offers of accommodation.

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This is the fact. He can deny it all he wants. He knew exactly what he was doing. He was shifting the blame for the housing crisis from the Government, whose responsibility it is, onto the shoulders of the victims.

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He has not even decided to apologise for that.

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The reality, and the Taoiseach and his Ministers do not like to hear this, is that under their watch-----

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I ask Deputy Donohoe to listen to this for a second.

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Under their watch, we have never seen homelessness as bad in this State. Some 3,700 children woke up this morning with nowhere to call a home. This is their legacy. We have record levels of homelessness and it is increasing every month. We have targets for social and affordable housing that are far too low and even then the Government misses them. We have an entire generation of people who believe that they will never own a home in this State and this is why they are deciding to pack their bags and go to Sydney, and different places in Australia, to London and to Canada.

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At least they are-----

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This is reality.

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Please, Deputies.

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It is not me. These people are deciding to do this.

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Deputy Doherty without interference, please.

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The Taoiseach made those comments yesterday. He made them deliberately. Does he acknowledge the housing crisis, and those people who feel they have been let down-----

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I thank the Deputy. He is out of time now.

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-----by his Government, a Government he has now led and been involved in for 12 years-----

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Please, Deputy Doherty, the time is up now.

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-----and has seen this crisis deepen as rents continue to go out of control, as house prices are out of control and as those in emergency and homeless accommodation have never been higher in the history of this State?

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I thank the Deputy. I call the Taoiseach.

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Leo Varadkar The Taoiseach Fine Gael

Those comments were made in response to an individual case given by another Deputy. There are many individual cases and everyone has their story and everyone's story is different. That is the truth of it. It is a simple fact that there are people on the housing list who have refused offers of accommodation and, in some cases, multiple offers of accommodation. Often, this is for good reasons.

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What about-----

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Deputies, please.

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Leo Varadkar The Taoiseach Fine Gael

One of the reasons we have choice-based letting now is that people will have more choice regarding the offers they get. This has been a big success and something that was introduced by the last Government.

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The Taoiseach is wrong.

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Please, Deputy.

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The Taoiseach is-----

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Leo Varadkar The Taoiseach Fine Gael

It is a huge leap to say that stating the fact that people refuse offers of accommodation is somehow blaming them for-----

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The Taoiseach said very many.

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Deputy Doherty, please.

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The Taoiseach should apologise for his comment.

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Leo Varadkar The Taoiseach Fine Gael

Ah stop.

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Not very many people of these 12,000 people have been offered accommodation and the Taoiseach knows this fine well.

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Deputy-----

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He should apologise for putting the blame for the housing crisis on their shoulders.

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Deputy Doherty, please.

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It was disgraceful. They have to deal with enough without the Taoiseach trying to blame them for being homeless.

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Please, Deputy Doherty.

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Leo Varadkar The Taoiseach Fine Gael

If it would help, and help to contain the Deputy and his outburst, I am happy to rephrase the term "plenty" to "some".

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I call Deputy Bacik now, please.

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