Airbnb regulation and housing
Deputy Collins pressed the Taoiseach on planning and regulation for Airbnb homes in west Cork, saying the Taoiseach had not answered the question. The exchange escalated with interventions from Deputy Healy-Rae and the Chair, as the Taoiseach argued legislation should be seen before criticism and insisted there was a housing emergency and a need for balance.
The Taoiseach said that he understands the challenges faced by businesses. I could question that because he is part of the Government that raised VAT from 9% to 13.5%. That was not evidence of understanding the challenges businesses are experiencing. I am talking about a completely different matter. The Taoiseach referred to regulation. Those in the Airbnb sector are not afraid of regulation. They understand that regulation has to be put in place. However, if this requires planning, for many of these homes that have been providing an excellent tourism service throughout the country, west Cork included, it will mean that the people involved may have to spend tens of thousands of euro that they cannot afford to spend on their homes. That is where the issue lies. They are not afraid of regulation. They are not afraid to sit down around the table and put things right and make sure everything is in order. They do have a concern, however, about the planning regulation that may be involved in this. If this goes ahead the way it is being reported, it is going to wipe out Airbnb services throughout west Cork and other places. That is the concern. They are not afraid of regulation or of making changes to provide clarity going forward. What they are worried about is the planning regulation. If the planning regulation comes in, it is going to put them out of business. That is where they feel this is going.
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I appreciate the sincerity of the point the Deputy is making but I would also say this. We have to be honest in this House about Airbnb and how much people can make on that over a couple of days versus renting out the place for a month. We have to have a balanced conversation. There is either a housing emergency in Ireland or there is not. Let me be clear, there is such an emergency. I am sure the Deputy would have spoken to young people during the local and European elections. It is good to continue that honesty afterwards. I am sure he would have looked them in the eyes and told them that he and his councillors, MEPs and whomever else are going to do everything in the Dáil and elsewhere to help them get homes. So am I. That involves taking decisions in government, not just defining the problem or deciding which bandwagon to jump on today. There are legitimate issues that the tourism sector has. We will work with it. We value it. We need it. The sector is an important part of our economy not just in rural Ireland but in all parts.
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I have been to your constituency and on the main street of Kinsale I heard about the need for this. I swear to God I did. I remember the mother who spoke to me on that street. This Government is not going to let her and her kids down.
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The Taoiseach has not answered the question.
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It is usual in parliamentary democracy that people wait to read legislation when it is published. We will publish it. The Deputy can then read it and then bring forward amendments. Let us have a debate on the floor of the Dáil. Do not do this usual thing of claiming that the Government does not understand rural Ireland and so on. That is nonsense.
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That is a scandalous answer to the people providing Airbnb in west Cork.
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The Taoiseach visited Kerry recently and should know better than to come up here and say something like that. That is an insult.
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The people who provide Airbnb support tourism services in west Cork. You should be ashamed of yourself.
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You are clueless. You do not have a clue, Taoiseach, you never answered the question I asked.
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We would have expected better from you than that now, Taoiseach.
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Do not bother coming down to west Cork.
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You come up here and go mocking people like that. That is wrong. That is mocking, and you are wrong, Taoiseach. You are 62 days in the job and you should know a lot more than that.
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I have been in this job for four years, Deputies, and never once have I been ignored in this manner.
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The Taoiseach is out of order.
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I ask that Deputies speak through the Chair or I am going to abandon the Dáil, and I do not wish to do that. I am asking the Deputy for the last time to show a little respect-----
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The Taoiseach should apologise.
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-----for the Chair, if nothing else. I thank the Deputies. It was Deputy Collins' question. It is now finished-----
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-----and I am going to move on to Questions on Policy or Legislation. I thank the Deputies and ask for their co-operation.