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Dáil
‹ Ceisteanna ar Pholasaí nó ar Reachtaíocht - Questions on Policy or Legislation

Order of Business

Summary

The Chair opens Questions on Policy or Legislation. Deputy Carthy criticises public spending waste and asks about lessons from the bike shelter overspend; the Tánaiste defends capital projects and contrasts them with Sinn Féin spending plans.

We move on to Questions on Policy or Legislation. I ask that the questions take no longer than a minute and that the answers take no longer than a minute.

Comment on this

Nothing angers and frustrates people more than seeing wastage of public money. Of course, the litany of overspends and wastages under Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael is endless. We could go back to the electronic voting machines; the €150 million spent on the MetroLink, which still does not a have a timeframe; NAMA giveaways; and projects with seemingly unlimited budgets and zero accountability. After each such controversy, the Government says that lessons have been learned. Perhaps the Tánaiste could tell us what lessons the Government intends to learn from a bike shelter that cost €336,000 or a security hut that fleeced the Irish people of €1.5 million. Is the lesson simply that Fianna Fáil or Fine Gael cannot build hospitals, houses or even bike shelters without squandering taxpayers' money and that they are incapable of protecting the Irish people from such wastage?

Comment on this

I would tell the Deputy to travel around the country and look at the new schools that have been opened and built and which he has visited. They were not a waste of money. I do not think we can extrapolate from the bike shed outside that every other piece of infrastructure represents no value for money or represents excessive expenditure. We need balance and perspective in debate all the time. Some very fine projects have been completed under the capital infrastructure programme, including schools, hospitals and roads. That is the overall picture. I do not think we can look at everything through the lens of what was in my view excessive spending in terms of the bike shed. I am not fully au fait with the security pavilion at the Department of Finance. It is my understanding that the OPW deals with all of that. It is stretching it to suggest that Ministers are going to get involved in the nitty-gritty of every security contract. That is not the way it works. There have to be proper checks and balances. The Comptroller and Auditor General is there-----

Comment on this

There will be cheques all right.

Comment on this

-----to oversee public expenditure and the Deputy knows that. I note from Sinn Féin's budget that its confidence and capacity to spend money has not stopped it from proposing billions of euro more expenditure than anyone else is proposing.

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