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Dáil
‹ An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business

Monaghan special school meeting

Summary

Deputy Matt Carthy presses the Taoiseach to meet families campaigning for a special school in Monaghan and challenges repeated references to a process. The Taoiseach says he will meet them and that the NCSE and Department are working on special-school capacity, while the Chair repeatedly curbs Carthy’s interruptions.

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Not agreed.

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Question put: "That the proposed arrangements for this week's business be agreed to"

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Do you agree with this result?

Families of children with disabilities in County Monaghan are extremely frustrated by the way they have been treated by this Government. They describe their lives as a battle every day just to get the services they need. Monaghan needs a special school but Ministers continually point to a process without explaining what that process is or what criteria have led to the situation whereby Monaghan has no special school but similar counties have a number. Last June, the Taoiseach told me he would meet the campaigning families with local Oireachtas Members. Why has that meeting not taken place? The Taoiseach's office responded to me in August, saying that he was in the process of identifying a suitable date. Has that process concluded? Will the Taoiseach let us know when he will meet the families to hear first-hand the challenges they face as a result of the inaction of his Government in delivering the services their children need?

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Simon Harris The Taoiseach Fine Gael

I will do my best to get through the many requests that the Deputy has made.

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Just to meet them. That is the request. Will the Taoiseach meet them?

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Simon Harris The Taoiseach Fine Gael

I will, but I will also speak-----

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There is a process.

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There is a process.

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What is the process?

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The Deputy was strong on process last night.

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I thought you were all in favour of process.

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What is the process, Minister?

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Simon Harris The Taoiseach Fine Gael

There is a serious-----

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The Minister has been in Cabinet for eight years. Where is the special school for Monaghan?

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The Deputy knows the process.

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Simon Harris The Taoiseach Fine Gael

The Minister has done a great job in Cabinet and the people of Monaghan know that too.

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They have no special school. The Taoiseach promised to meet the families who are looking for it and has not done so.

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Simon Harris The Taoiseach Fine Gael

They do know that. They will tell Deputy Carthy all about it soon too. May I answer the question?

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The election is on.

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Simon Harris The Taoiseach Fine Gael

There is a serious issue with the need for a special school in Monaghan. My understanding is that the Department and National Council for Special Education, NCSE, are currently working to finalise special school capacity for September 2025 and Monaghan will be addressed as part of that process. I will engage with that group directly.

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I call Deputy Bacik.

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Simon Harris The Taoiseach Fine Gael

I do not need to do it through Deputy Carthy. I can do it myself, thanks. It is a democracy.

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The Taoiseach committed to meet them in June. He clearly needs somebody's assistance.

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Deputy Carthy is in bad form.

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Simon Harris The Taoiseach Fine Gael

I do not need Deputy Carthy's assistance.

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Stop taking other people's time, please.

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Deputy Carthy is in bad form today.

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The Taoiseach has promised the Dáil that he would meet the families.

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Please, Deputy. You are taking up other Members' time.

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Surely it is in order to ask him why that has not taken place and when it will take place.

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Please, you are taking up other Members' time. I call Deputy Bacik.

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