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Dáil
‹ Ceisteanna ar Pholasaí nó ar Reachtaíocht - Questions on Policy or Legislation

Request for statement on party disciplinary case

Summary

Joanna Byrne seeks a Government-facilitated Business Committee discussion and a statement about Fine Gael’s disciplinary process concerning Senator Martin Conway. The Ceann Comhairle rules that allegations against Members cannot be made, while the Taoiseach says the matter concerns an opposition-House Member and internal party procedures, not Government business.

The Tánaiste, the Taoiseach's partner in government and leader of Fine Gael, needs to make a statement to the Dáil regarding his party's investigation into Senator Martin Conway for inappropriate behaviour towards a female staff member. We know there was an investigation by Fine Gael; what we do not know-----

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Verona Murphy An Ceann Comhairle Independent

Excuse me, Deputy, yesterday we had this conversation about making allegations against other Deputies.

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Sorry, a Cheann Comhairle, I am quite within my rights to raise this under promised legislation. As Head of Government-----

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Verona Murphy An Ceann Comhairle Independent

Deputy, you cannot make-----

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-----I am asking that the Taoiseach instruct-----

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Verona Murphy An Ceann Comhairle Independent

Deputy, when I stand up, resume your seat, please.

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-----the Government Chief Whip to facilitate the Business Committee-----

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Verona Murphy An Ceann Comhairle Independent

Deputy, please resume your seat. The Chair is speaking.

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-----and allow the Tánaiste to answer the many questions that face him regarding the disciplinary process carried out in relation to Senator Martin Conway.

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We need to do a training programme all around the House.

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Verona Murphy An Ceann Comhairle Independent

Now, Deputy, when the Chair stands up, you resume your seat out of respect. That is what I am here for.

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I am sorry, a Cheann Comhairle.

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Verona Murphy An Ceann Comhairle Independent

There is no point in apologising; you ignored me three times, Deputy. Yesterday, I addressed the matter. That rule is to protect all Members, not just the Oireachtas Member whom you are making the allegation against.

It is to protect you from-----

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I did not make an allegation.

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Verona Murphy An Ceann Comhairle Independent

Allegations-----

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I did not make an allegation.

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She did not make an allegation. She has asked for time.

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We asked for clarity.

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Verona Murphy An Ceann Comhairle Independent

Deputy, you were told yesterday how that clarity could be got. Your Whip was given it in writing.

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The Taoiseach controls the Business Committee through the Chief Whip, through the party and through the Government. Deputy Byrne is entitled to ask the question.

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One thing I do not control is the Business Committee. I can tell you that.

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Verona Murphy An Ceann Comhairle Independent

Making the allegation contained in the question-----

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Do you really want me to control it?

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If the Ceann Comhairle had let me finish, I would have got to the point about the Business Committee, which I was quite entitled to raise.

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Verona Murphy An Ceann Comhairle Independent

Your allegation was made at that stage.

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I did not make an allegation. We asked for clarity and for a statement and we were quite within our rights to ask for that.

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Verona Murphy An Ceann Comhairle Independent

I am going to get the Taoiseach to respond but I am asking Deputies to consider that any allegation made against Members is prohibited.

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No allegations were made.

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Verona Murphy An Ceann Comhairle Independent

As I consider it, it is an allegation.

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Would you like me to repeat what I said?

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No.

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Verona Murphy An Ceann Comhairle Independent

No, Deputy, I would not. Thank you.

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There was no allegation made.

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Verona Murphy An Ceann Comhairle Independent

I call the Taoiseach, please.

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There is no precedent. I do not think it is appropriate for internal party issues to be Government issues. It is not a Government issue-----

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You insisted Sinn Féin-----

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If I could just clarify-----

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The double standards.

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The Member of the other House, not this House, whom the Deputies refer to-----

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How is that relevant?

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Will the Deputy let me finish? He is heckling non-stop. The issue relates to a Member of the other House. It is a matter for the party concerned in terms of its internal disciplinary procedure. He is not an officer of the Government. He is not in office. He is not a member of Government. Under the Constitution, Government is accountable to the House so-----

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It is pertinent to the payment.

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He is accountable to-----

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His party is in government.

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-----this is all very straightforward, by the way, but I understand what the Deputy is doing and why she is doing it.

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He is a member of Fine Gael.

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