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‹ Ceisteanna ar Pholasaí nó ar Reachtaíocht - Questions on Policy or Legislation

Arts Council overspend and review

Summary

The Chair warns Deputies to keep to time, then Pearse Doherty attacks the Government over waste and demands accountability for major overruns. The Tánaiste says the Arts Council issue is serious, supports an external review, and says oversight questions must be answered.

Verona Murphy An Ceann Comhairle Independent

I reiterate that Deputies should stick to their allocated times. If they do not do so, it will have an impact on later speakers.

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Does the Tánaiste accept that the Government and, indeed, the Government of which he was in charge during the previous term has a serious problem with the waste of public money? Those in government are serial wasters. That is what we are seeing over and over again. The Tánaiste talks about accountability. Name the person who was held accountable for the overspend on the national children's hospital. Name the person who was held accountable for the bike shed, the security hut or the wall that cost an arm and a leg. That is the reality. It just moves on. The question is how could this have happened? This project was initially approved by the Department of public expenditure. I do not know if it was Deputy Donohoe or Michael McGrath who was there at the time. In its annual statement, the Arts Council states:

In July 2021 the project moved to a standing item on the Council’s Plenary Agenda. The Department of Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media have been updated and informed throughout the project.

Does the Tánaiste believe that is a false statement by the board in its annual statement? Does he believe that the Department was informed and that the Minister just did not inform him?

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Verona Murphy An Ceann Comhairle Independent

The Deputy is over time.

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There is a serious issue here. We cannot go through another RTÉ phase 2. We need all the information and Ministers need to tell us what the Department knew, who knew, whether the Department of public expenditure knew and whether the Department of the environment knew.

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Verona Murphy An Ceann Comhairle Independent

One of the Deputy's colleagues will miss out because he went 20 seconds over his time. It is a minute and a minute.

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Simon Harris The Tánaiste Fine Gael

I have already said that I believe this issue is very serious. I believe we need to get to the bottom of it. I believe people in well-paid positions in public bodies should be expected to deliver and to be cognisant of the public sector spending code. I believe the arts community has been let down.

I also believe that as we have an external review, there are legitimate questions about the level of oversight and engagement between the Department, its officials and the Arts Council. That is clear. It is also clear from a summary of the findings of the initial review. The external review-----

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Verona Murphy An Ceann Comhairle Independent

I thank the Tánaiste. I call Deputy Sherlock on behalf of the Labour Party.

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