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Dáil
‹ Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions

Climate policy and energy security

Summary

Deputy Murphy presses that the Taoiseach is ignoring climate targets, higher bills and energy demand from data centres. The Taoiseach replies that he cares about climate and workers, says the CRU paper merits study, and frames LNG and energy policy mainly as questions of security of supply.

The signal the Taoiseach is sending is that he does not care about the climate change challenge and about the emissions targets, because we will blow right past them. He does not care. He does not care about the bills that are going up for ordinary people.

He does not care about people who are forced to pay carbon taxes when they have no other way to get to work. He does not care about energy resilience and sustainability when we now have over 20% of our electricity going to data centres. Why? Because big tech says this is how it should be.

I read the Taoiseach's column at the weekend. I listened to him describe it as the equivalent of the industrial revolution. He sounds like a man who has drunk too much of the big tech Kool-Aid. He needs to apply some critical faculties. It is not possible. Currently, over 20% of our electricity is being used on data centres. We are going to go to 30% and then beyond. We cannot go in that direction and meet our climate change targets. It is one or the other. That is why the Taoiseach wants to import LNG. He is also going for fossil fuels.

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Verona Murphy An Ceann Comhairle Independent

I thank the Deputy. I call the Taoiseach to respond.

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This is the crisis facing humanity right now. We need to make the choices. The choice the Taoiseach is making is to put-----

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Verona Murphy An Ceann Comhairle Independent

I thank Deputy Murphy. His time is up.

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-----big tech profits, the same companies that fuel hate for profit,-----

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Verona Murphy An Ceann Comhairle Independent

I call the Taoiseach to respond.

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-----before our children's future.

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Verona Murphy An Ceann Comhairle Independent

I call the Taoiseach to respond. He has half a minute.

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Sorry?

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Verona Murphy An Ceann Comhairle Independent

The Taoiseach has half a minute. Deputy Murphy took the Taoiseach's time.

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Not my half a minute.

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Verona Murphy An Ceann Comhairle Independent

I think we should respect the time of the House.

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I care about climate just as much as Deputy Murphy does.

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I also care about workers. I am not so sure Deputy Murphy does, really.

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How many jobs are in data centres, Taoiseach?

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The CRU has issued its paper. It bears reflection if people want to read it and tease it through. I have never believed that, when we have new technological innovations and fundamental change, you should turn your back on it, pretend it is not happening and go into some sort of cocoon where you are happy with yourself. That is not the real world. The only issue with LNG is energy security. It is not about a facility in Kerry or anywhere else. The nation has security vulnerability if anything happens to our gas pipeline. That is the bottom line that we need to address.

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