If we ever have a case again where we have a design like the children's hospital, can the Government please not do it? Look at what we have done in Limerick: we built a box. People want boxes to be built because one can add onto a box or put a box down. They want care. Consider the cost of maintaining the children's hospital, with round curtains, round glass, and furnishings that have to be specially made. Given the cost of even trying to maintain an existing hospital, how many hospital beds could we provide for people by building a box design? All the other hospitals have been built like boxes and we can actually maintain them. The Minister's budget would go further to make sure that we can give more beds at a better price and more care.

First of all, I believe that design is important. Perhaps one of the issues with the new children's hospital - and which was reported in the PwC report - was that it did not have a finalised design prior to the contract issuing. That is one of the conclusions. That is my understanding and I stand to be corrected on that. I would not be against good design for a national children's hospital. That is important.

I would also make the point that there is a complexity in terms of a tertiary hospital where very complex surgery will be carried out, where rare diseases will be addressed, where world-class medicine will be deployed, in consultation with children's hospitals around the world and in accordance with established protocols in the paediatric medicine field. The positioning and placement of surgeries, for example, and the interlocking and integration of that with wards and so on-----

One could build boxes.

No, it is more than that. It is more than just building boxes.