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‹ Ceisteanna ar Pholasaí nó ar Reachtaíocht - Questions on Policy or Legislation

Palestinian children visa dispute

Summary

Deputy Gould accused the State of unequal treatment between Israeli and Palestinian visitors and pleaded for the children to be allowed to travel. The Tánaiste repeatedly replied that the issue was child protection and visa law, not politics, and insisted the applications must be worked through properly.

I wish to correct a comment the Tánaiste made earlier. Israeli citizens do not need a visa to enter Ireland to stay up to 90 days for tourism, visiting family or friends or attending business. In other words, there is apartheid operating in this country as well, whereby people in Palestine, which Israel considers part of Israel, need to jump through every hoop in the book to get into this country, whereas Israeli citizens do not. That is from the Department of justice. Those are the facts. The Tánaiste has the power. He is the Tánaiste and the Minister for foreign affairs. He can deliver this. I spoke to GAA Palestine this morning. It has hundreds of volunteers and will do whatever it takes between now and the weekend to get these children the visas they require. Let us be honest here. Does the Tánaiste have the will? Does he want to let these children come here? I remember going up to the Six Counties as a young fella to play hurling and football and I remember them coming to Cork to stay in my house and with my club, St. Vincent's. I remember what it was like. However, these 33 children-----

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John McGuinness An Leas-Cheann Comhairle Fianna Fáil

Thanks Deputy.

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-----are living in hell. Does the Tánaiste know that if they do not get here now, some of them will not be around for the next one because some of them will probably be slaughtered by the Israelis? I am pleading with the Tánaiste. I am begging him now-----

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John McGuinness An Leas-Cheann Comhairle Fianna Fáil

Deputy Gould, please.

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-----for the sake of the children. Will he let them play?

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Simon Harris The Tánaiste Fine Gael

First, the use of the word "apartheid" is very unfortunate in relation to this. What we are doing is-----

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That is from the website.

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Simon Harris The Tánaiste Fine Gael

What we are doing is applying the laws of our land - laws which the Deputy and his party have not proposed changing, laws in relation to child protection, which I am sure he takes seriously, and laws in relation to a visa system that has to be impartial and applied. We cannot provide visas on the basis of public petition. We have to provide them on the basis of the rules. We have to address child protection. We would all love this to happen in many ways. Who would not like to help children? Of course we would, but there is a "but" here. This has to be done correctly. There are child protection requirements around visas. Everyone is talking about 33 children.

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They have done all that. You heard Máire Devine and Aengus Ó Snodaigh. They have done all the child protection. They are doing everything.

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John McGuinness An Leas-Cheann Comhairle Fianna Fáil

Deputy Gould, please.

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Simon Harris The Tánaiste Fine Gael

Everybody is talking-----

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John McGuinness An Leas-Cheann Comhairle Fianna Fáil

Will Deputy Gould please allow the Tánaiste to answer?

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Simon Harris The Tánaiste Fine Gael

With respect to Deputies Devine and Ó Snodaigh, that has nothing to do with child protection. It is absolutely nothing to do with the point. Everyone is talking about 33 children. Why is nobody saying the next bit, which is that they are travelling from one far-flung part of the world to another with adults who are not their parents and the importance of child protection checks in relation to that? It is a perfectly appropriate thing to do. No migration service and no Minister for justice would be doing their job if they did not take that seriously.

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My own club brought a team to Paris a few weeks ago with their coaches, not their parents.

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John McGuinness An Leas-Cheann Comhairle Fianna Fáil

I call Deputy Whitmore. Deputy Gould-----

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It happens in every school, every club in the country. It happens with every one of them.

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Simon Harris The Tánaiste Fine Gael

It is worked through the system.

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John McGuinness An Leas-Cheann Comhairle Fianna Fáil

Deputy Whitmore.

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Simon Harris The Tánaiste Fine Gael

The Deputy will not resolve this by shouting.

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