I have just attended a press conference held by my colleague, Kathleen Funchion MEP, Patricia Carey, the special advocate for survivors, and two survivors who spoke at the conference and who are excluded from the mother and baby institutions payment scheme. It is hard to look at a survivor in his 70s who recounted the abuse that he faced when bordered out and that he lived with for so many years of his childhood. The other survivor was from Temple Hill, one of the institutions excluded and an institution that I have referenced in this House many times. We have a pot of €800 million for this institutional payment scheme. Some €78 million has been spent and we are two and a half years into a five-year scheme. Can the scheme now be expanded, as the special advocate has looked for, to include those survivors who have been excluded? One of the survivors said today they feel that from the State, it is a case of, "We're sorry, but not that sorry." There are so many survivors excluded from the scheme. Can we please look to expand it?

I was not at the press conference, which the Deputy said was attended by Kathleen Funchion and Patricia Carey. As I said earlier, it is not that there is a pot. There is no pot anywhere.

Some €800 million was set aside.

A scheme was outlined and there were estimates as to what it would cost. It is not as if there is a pot of money over there. We have, over the years, supported different categories of people in terms of redress relating to specific areas. Industrial schools were the most significant and over €1 billion was allocated at that time. That was just the financial support but there was much more to it, including counselling, educational support and housing support. We continue to keep issues under review.

These people got nothing.