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‹ Order of Business (Resumed)

Galway tragedy and legislative responsibility

Summary

Senators continue discussing the Galway death, stressing sympathy, caution and the need to await investigation. Procedural interventions object to personal criticism and detailed debate, while members seek clarity for doctors and legislation on abortion.

I will not follow any of my distinguished colleagues in terms of speaking on that subject. I am glad they are treating it sensitively. It is important that we await the outcome of the investigation. Obviously, it is a tragic case.

I welcome very much what Senator Darragh O'Brien mentioned in regard to the Bank of Ireland being able to raise €1 billion on the bond markets unaided. It is small step - a stumble in the right direction on the road to the normalisation of our banks. However, I am concerned, as are many other Members who have expressed their concern, about the bankers who are still in situ who were in place in retail banking in Ireland - I am talking about pillar banks - when they brought down our banks. It was a condition of the State guarantee of the banks that pay caps be observed and we know in specific instances that they are not. They are seriously out of kilter in some instances and this is an issue that must be addressed, apart form the pension pots, which are outlandish, and they should be brought to heel in that regard. The important point we want to enforce and recommend to the Minister is that while the banks are still dependent on State assistance, as both pillar banks are, they must play by the rules and they should be made play by them. I do not have a remedy for how that should be done, but it is not outside the bounds of the capabilities of the people who are dealing with this matter to ensure that will be the case as long as those banks are depending on the State guarantee When they are free of it, they can break away, as can the other banks. I will not say that they can do what they like, as nobody should be allowed to do what they like in a democracy.

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I extend my deepest sympathy to the family of the woman in Galway. Their grieving has been made much harder by the fact that the case has been made so public and it is a very contentious issue in our State. The people spoke in a referendum and firmly placed responsibility upon their Oireachtas representatives to deal with the issue by means of legislation. While many people hold their own personal views, values and beliefs, we were elected as legislators and, ultimately, responsibility comes with that role. As elected representatives and legislators, it is important we act to deal with the difficult issues caused for women and medical practitioners in this State by the current absence of legislation. We are now no longer dealing with what ifs or hypothetical situations. The reality of the absence of legislation for the X case has finally hit home. We have seen that in Galway and it is not acceptable. There is an expert group and it was reported in the Dáil today that the Minister, Deputy Reilly, has received that expert group's report last night. I would like to know when it will be made public and when will we finally have sight of legislation to deal with this issue.

Senator Norris raised a number of pertinent and important questions that need to be answered. This issue will be on the agenda for a long time into the future and as legislators we need to respond and deal with it as a matter of urgency and priority because the reality has hit home. We are not dealing with a hypothetical situation. A tragedy has occurred and we now have to deal with this issue to prevent this happening to other women in the future. As Senator Heffernan said, such women could be our sisters, parents or daughters and the current position cannot continue to prevail any longer.

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I support in their entirety the comments of my colleague, Senator Heffernan, on the tragedy of the death of the lady in Galway in the last few days. "I am right" is a statement that was made and it was made in the context of there being no information. It is amazing and remarkable that such a statement could be made by Senator Mullen. Perhaps "I am righteous" would be a better statement in this context. I will leave it at that for the moment.

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On a point of order, I do not think I said "I am right."

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Paddy Burke An Cathaoirleach Fine Gael

Senator Landy should not comment on other Senators.

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It was a fair comment. It was said in the Chamber.

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On a point of order, it is unfair when we are all trying to deal with the issue sensitively for Senator Landy to turn this into a personal attack.

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Paddy Burke An Cathaoirleach Fine Gael

Does Senator Landy have a question for the Leader?

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