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‹ Order of Business

Mortgage to rent scheme

Summary

Senators debate the mortgage-to-rent scheme, mortgage arrears and protections for distressed homeowners, with criticism of the scheme and the Government’s response. The Leader later points to the scheme’s national rollout and other measures addressing mortgage difficulties.

There are many problems in the country and it is a pity more business is not being taken. That calls into the question the Government's true agenda and whether it is able to run the country in the way it has been elected to do.

I refer to the mortgage to rent scheme, a pillar of Labour Party policy. Labour Party Senators were among the first to recommend such an approach, although I recommended it in a report for the Joint Committee on Social Protection three years ago. The reality is, as Mr. Justice Dunne said in the High Court recently, the scheme gives false hope to those in mortgage difficulty. Is not working out; it is a sham. The record showed last summer that only one transaction had been completed. Last week when Bank of Ireland officials appeared before the Joint Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, they informed us 13 transactions had been completed or were being looked at, yet Labour Party representatives all over the country are issuing statements about the scheme offering great hope. Leaflets about the scheme are being dropped through letter boxes. People are attending my clinics saying the scheme will save them, but, unfortunately, it will not.

The Government parties are playing with the emotions of those in mortgage difficulty by making such loud noises about the scheme when a High Court judge has had cause to say it is not working out. It is worrying that the scheme is the only response from the Government to protect those in mortgage difficulty. Everything else in place was introduced by the previous Government. I invite Government Members to outline what is in place for those in mortgage difficulty that was not in place under the previous Government. They will only find the mortgage to rent scheme. At least one person in five is in mortgage difficulty and time after time, the Government has taken the side of the banks, as we witnessed yesterday in the debate on the Personal Insolvency Bill 2012. With the usual wave of the hand, the Minister for Justice and Equality said that, unfortunately, normal commercial contract law applied to those in mortgage difficulty and that they had to pay their way. However, normal commercial contract law does not apply to many other groups and, in particular, the banks and the Government parties have given them a veto. They abolished mortgage interest relief, thus forcing people to negotiate with their banks without giving them any help. The Banks have also been allowed to run amok with interest rates. The mortgage to rent scheme is a public relations exercise for the Labour Party.

I propose an amendment to the Order of Business that the Minister of State, Deputy Jan O'Sullivan, come to the House to discuss the failure of the mortgage to rent scheme and outline to the people, including those with mortgage difficulties, what hope there is for them, and apologise to them for having given false hope and putting in place a scheme that simply has not worked out, as a High Court judge said this week.

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While I am sure Senator Thomas Byrne has read the Regling-Watson report, he has obviously forgotten it, like most of the Members on the other side of the House. It was quite clear in stating 70% of the country's financial problems were related directly to the policies of the former Government, to which the Senator was affiliated. He was a cheerleader for the breed of people-----

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It does not state that.

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Some 70% of the problems were caused by the policies of the former Government, according to the independent Regling-Watson report. Denial is a great art.

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What help is that to people with mortgage difficulties? The Senator's party is now in power and mine was voted out because of what had occurred.

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The Government has taken the burning torch from the Senator's party. It is burning stronger now and we must ensure this will continue to be the case. The Senator and his colleagues come to the House and tell us we are doing nothing for distressed mortgage holders. One newspaper informs us today that there may be a ray of hope for those who took out 100% mortgages. What is being engaged in is another fire-fighting exercise by the Government and the people.

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What has that to do with the Government? It is a private transaction between an English bank and another foreign bank.

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Paddy Burke An Cathaoirleach Fine Gael

Senator Jimmy Harte to continue, without interruption.

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The Senator may interrupt all he likes.

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It has nothing to do with the Government.

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I did not interrupt the Senator.

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I will say some home truths.

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Had the Senator not been on his phone, he might have listened to what I had to say.

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Paddy Burke An Cathaoirleach Fine Gael

Does the Senator have a question for the Leader?

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We should respect each other. I hope those who have 100% mortgages and may be in serious negative equity will be given some glimmer of hope. However, I express caution as the article to which I referred refers to the diminished role of the Central Bank regarding the many mortgage and loan books sold by financial institutions to outside venture capital funds. I strongly recommend that the Minister examine the protection of family homes under threat where loan and mortgage books are sold to outside interests.

With regard to the ongoing tragic case in Galway, we should ask the Minister for Justice and Equality to outline the position of the coroner and the Coroner's Court such that an investigation may be expedited. There is much hearsay and there are many opinions on who is responsible for information in the public domain. I ask that the Minister be invited to the House to clarify whether the coroner has a role in order that we can reach a reasonable and satisfactory conclusion and the husband can rest peacefully at night knowing the law of the land is on his side and that he can obtain justice for his late wife.

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