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‹ Order of Business

Garda funding and confidence

Summary

The Leader says the Justice Minister can be questioned during Private Members’ time and rejects the proposed amendment. He defends Government funding while accusing Fianna Fáil of previous public-service and Garda cuts, prompting sustained exchanges.

Senator Darragh O'Brien asked that the Minister for Justice and Equality, Deputy Alan Shatter, come to the House. The Minister was here for the Senator's Private Members' motion a couple of weeks ago.

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The Senator and his colleagues will have another opportunity next week during Private Members' time.

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If the Minister will not come, we will do what we did again.

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Fianna Fáil has it in its power to bring the Minister into the House.

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I thank the Leader for his direction.

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I am sure the Senator will avail of the opportunity.

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I certainly will.

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I remind Members on the other side of the House that Fianna Fáil's national recovery plan and Garda plan allocated €90 million less for the Garda last year and this year. The Members opposite are talking out of both sides of the their mouths when they say more money should be allocated for the Garda.

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No, we are not. The Minister has lost the confidence of gardaí.

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Fianna Fáil had an opportunity for 14 years.

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Paddy Burke An Cathaoirleach Fine Gael

The Leader to continue, without interruption.

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Others are talking about benchmarking, while Senator Mark Daly referred to taking money from gardaí. Fianna Fáil took 14% from all public servants-----

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Under the Croke Park agreement.

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-----including gardaí, ambulance personnel and all of the others about whom the Senator is speaking.

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We do not all suffer from amnesia on this side of the House.

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I do not either.

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The general public, irrespective of whether support for Fianna Fáil is running at 27%, will not forget that either.

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They certainly will not forget what the Minister for Justice and Equality, Deputy Alan Shatter is doing.

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Fianna Fáil is speaking out of both sides of its mouth the whole time. Some €180 million less was provided for the Garda by Fianna Fáil.

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Paddy Burke An Cathaoirleach Fine Gael

The Leader to continue, without interruption.

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Fianna Fáil is holding public meetings telling people that there will be less money for the Garda.

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The Senator’s party is in government.

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Members on the other side of the House obviously do not like to hear the truth. That is the truth of the matter. It is a bit rich coming from Fianna Fáil when it provided for such cuts. To have to listen to that tripe is absolutely ridiculous.

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Just listen to gardaí.

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Paddy Burke An Cathaoirleach Fine Gael

May we listen to the Leader without interruption, please?

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

That is splendid, but is it an answer?

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Paddy Burke An Cathaoirleach Fine Gael

The Leader is replying to the House.

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Senators should read the back of the Sunday Independent.

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A Senator

Who would be reading that old rubbish?

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