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‹ Order of Business

Crisis pregnancy counselling investigation

Summary

Senator Mullen seeks a 45-minute debate with the Minister for Health on the HSE audit of State-funded crisis-pregnancy counselling, alleging serious failures and delay; colleagues support the request and the Chair clarifies the proposed amendment.

I agree. It should provide that no under-age person should be forced into marriage against his or her will.

I propose an amendment to the Order of Business that the House hold a 45 minute debate with the Minister for Health following Second Stage of the Health (Amendment) Bill on a specific issue affecting women's lives and health. I raised this issue in the context of the so-called protection of life in pregnancy Bill. It was exposed a number of months ago when there was an investigation into a HSE crisis pregnancy programme and funded counselling services.

The investigation revealed extremely irregular practices carried out by State-funded pregnancy counselling agencies. It specifically involved the Irish Family Planning Association and others and included, for example, the falsification of medical reporting on five occasions. On five occasions, the investigations found women were told to hide their abortions from their doctors. They were encouraged to lie and to tell the doctors, if they had complications after an abortion, that they had a miscarriage. That was one example of a life-threatening endangerment of women by State-funded pregnancy counselling agencies. The Master of the Rotunda Hospital, Dr. Sam Coulter-Smith, spoke to the Irish Independent about the dangers of giving such advice to women. In two Irish Family Planning Association clinics, women were told how to purchase and import an illegal abortion pill.

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On a point of order, these were just allegations. I do not think this has been proven.

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Paddy Burke An Cathaoirleach Fine Gael

Does Senator Mullen have a question for the Leader?

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I want the Minister for Health to come in for a specific debate because of an extraordinary answer given to a question by Deputy Terence Flanagan in the other House. He asked about the progress report on the investigation into the Irish Family Planning Association and others, which was supposed to be chaired by a former Secretary General of the Department of Education and Skills, Brigid McManus. We are now told it is an audit of State-funded crisis pregnancy counselling services. We are told it is near completion and that the process will be finalised within the next six to eight weeks.

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Paddy Burke An Cathaoirleach Fine Gael

Is Senator Mullen proposing an amendment to the Order of Business?

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I have proposed an amendment. It appears that Ms McManus is designated as an audit requester but none of the people involved in revealing the information and carrying out this important investigation, nor the journalists who reported on it, has been contacted so far by the people supposedly carrying out an investigation. It appears the HSE is carrying out an investigation into itself but we have no evidence of any progress. I propose that we amend the Order of Business to allow for a 45 minute debate specifically on this issue with the Minister for Health. I hope colleagues will support it.

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