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Intimidation over life-protection legislation

Summary

Senator Harte defends the Government’s position on the Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill, condemns intimidation and argues that supporters of the legislation also demonstrate conscience and courage.

I, too, welcome Senator Naughton to the House on her first day. I am very put out by the remarks of my colleague who tried to demean her position as a new Senator. Her appointment was a constitutional function of the Taoiseach.

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

He is not respecting the Constitution; that is the problem.

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Paddy Burke An Cathaoirleach Fine Gael

Has Senator Harte a question for the Leader?

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On a day like this, Members should be welcomed without any conditions.

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

I never thought that and I have never behaved in that way. It is a bit late to start expecting me to do so now.

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Paddy Burke An Cathaoirleach Fine Gael

Senator Norris.

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

I tell the truth.

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Paddy Burke An Cathaoirleach Fine Gael

Senator Norris, please. Some 33 Senators have indicated they wish to speak on the Order of Business today. It is obvious everyone will not get in. I ask Senator Harte to be brief with no interruptions.

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

The Senator made comments and I wanted to reply to them.

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I resent the statements coming from the other side of the House that conscience and courage only exist over there. Conscience and courage exist everywhere but it is much easier for people------

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Paddy Burke An Cathaoirleach Fine Gael

Does the Senator have a question for the Leader?

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Does the Senator realise he cannot make a statement on the Order of Business? He must put a question to the Leader.

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We are told conscience and courage only exist on one certain side of the House and with one certain viewpoint. It is much more difficult on this side of the House to vote for the protection of life legislation after the abuse given in e-mails and telephone calls, as well as intimidation outside the House, at workplaces and at homes with door-stepping. The courage is over here, not over there. Senators should reflect on it.

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Paddy Burke An Cathaoirleach Fine Gael

Does the Senator have a question for the Leader?

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

Having gone through that for 30 years, I know something about it.

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For anyone to claim they have courage beyond-----

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Paddy Burke An Cathaoirleach Fine Gael

Does the Senator have a question for the Leader?

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He can save these points for the Bill later. They are not relevant to the Order of Business.

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Paddy Burke An Cathaoirleach Fine Gael

Senator Harte is out of time. I call Senator Byrne.

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