I am grateful to the former Government Chief Whip for his clarification of that pairing mishap. I am sure the Government Deputy Chief Whip is equally grateful. I have always found him to be an honourable man with whom to do business. We are very dependent on order in this House and the pairing arrangements should be solid between us.

I was present this morning at the breakfast mentioned by Senator Catherine Noone and heard that very eloquent address by the former European Commissioner and Attorney General, Mr. Peter Sutherland. He painted a picture of Britain's difficulties and situation vis-à-vis Europe, which, from our point of view, is extremely frightening. The consequences of what it might do in a referendum or plebiscite - real, imagined or political - are dire for us. He went into it in detail, which we cannot do now. It is more than possible, regardless of who is in government in Britain in a year or two, that this could happen. He is such a distinguished man, having led one of Britain's largest companies for 13 or 14 years, that it would be wonderful if we could have him here to give us that kind of talk. He is still operating out of London. He is extremely knowledgeable, a tremendous Irish man and a great ambassador for Ireland.

What did he say?

I cannot go into that now. I will talk to the Senator afterwards. He said many things.

In a nutshell, what did he say? We cannot support the Senator if we do not know what he said.

We cannot have a debate on the matter now.

I do not need Senator Mary White's support.

How dare the Senator be so rude? That was a disparaging remark.

I am asking the Leader to consider having the man here to give us an address on the frightening situation for Ireland vis-à-vis Britain. This Chamber is best placed to calmly and dispassionately deal with that issue and have a discussion and debate on it.