A person in a wheelchair and a cancer sufferer came to my office this week about it. Two weeks ago I met a child who has an illness that will end the child's life in a few years and that child had to battle with the Government and the HSE to get a medical card. That is what is happening.

Does the Senator have a question for the Leader?

The health plan for next year was published yesterday. We are due to have a briefing session in private this afternoon, according to an e-mail we all received from the Minister. We should have the debate and the briefing session in this House in order that the public can know the full details of it and in order that the Minister and his officials can be questioned in full view of the public, online or in the news programmes. It is unacceptable that we are to have a meeting about this in the AV room. The Leader is obliged to organise a full debate on this service plan before Christmas in order that we can get the truth about what is happening. I have not even mentioned the accident and emergency department closures that are promised. I sincerely hope Navan's accident and emergency department will not be among the closures announced yesterday.