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Rehab lotteries and charity oversight

Summary

Senators argue over the Minister’s review of Rehab’s lottery scheme, its apparent losses and the proportion of ticket proceeds reaching services. Cullinane supports the Minister’s audit and calls for a charities regulator, while opponents dispute his characterisation of their position.

I am concerned that we will not have an opportunity to press the Minister when he comes back in. The amendment I am proposing would ensure that the debate lasts for two hours, rather than concluding at the time set out by the Minister.

I would like to refer to the comments that were made yesterday by the Minister for Justice and Equality, Deputy Shatter, with regard to Rehab. My view is completely different from that of the Fianna Fáil Senators. I suggest that the Dáil was entirely the appropriate place for the Minister to respond to what has emerged in this regard. Far too often, we accuse Ministers of making statements to the press rather than to the Oireachtas.

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As they were elected to this Parliament, this is where they should be held to account.

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It is extraordinary that a Fianna Fáil Senator would ask a Minister to keep schtum on something as important and fundamental as this issue.

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I was talking about the court case.

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Keeping schtum is what got this country into the mess it is in.

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Go away out of that.

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That is the reality.

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The Senator's colleagues do not like to speak about the past.

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Paddy Burke An Cathaoirleach Fine Gael

Senator Cullinane, without interruption.

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It seems to me that Fianna Fáil does not want accountability.

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The Senator is misrepresenting what I said.

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It does not want transparency.

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There is no point in talking to Sinn Féin.

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I commend the Minister for Justice and Equality-----

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-----on carrying out an internal review and audit of the money that was spent under the charitable lotteries scheme. It seems from the Rehab figures that State taxpayers' money was given to the organisation to subsidise apparent losses in relation to scratch cards. It transpires that for every €4 spent on Rehab scratch cards by consumers, just 1 cent went to the organisation to provide services. This is a fundamentally important issue for Members of the Dáil and the Seanad as legislators. I commend the Minister for carrying out an audit and a review - something that Fianna Fáil failed to do - and for moving in the right direction in this area.

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It is no surprise to us that Fianna Fáil does not like openness and transparency.

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It is a bit special for the Senator and his colleagues to talk about openness and transparency.

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Paddy Burke An Cathaoirleach Fine Gael

Senator Cullinane, without interruption.

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