I have. I propose an amendment to the Order of Business. I want the Minister for Health, Deputy James Reilly, to come to th House. During the election campaign, ten days ago, I met a lady who fell in Roscommon town in Lisnamult. Her name is Miss Mary Curley.

The Senator is not allowed to name people in the House who are not here to defend themselves.

It is okay. I think she will appreciate it.

It is completely out of order, as the Senator knows well.

That is fine. The ambulance was called from Roscommon County Hospital. The ambulance driver, a very courteous man, Mr. Plunkett, informed me------

The Senator may not give such details in the House. Does he have a question for the Leader? Is he looking for a debate on something? What is his amendment to the Order of Business?

My amendment is that the Minister for Health come to the House to explain what is happening in Roscommon County Hospital. I boycotted his arrival there at 12 noon on Monday 12 May and refused to participate in any event in which he was involved at the hospital. It was an insult to the people of Roscommon that he came to the hospital. A colleague of mine staged a protest outside.

The Senator is way over time.

I am sorry, but this is very important.

I know it is very important, but the Senator is way over time. He may propose his amendment.

When I sought the information from Mr. Plunkett, he told me he was bringing that patient to Portiuncula Hospital 25 or 30 miles away.

The Senator is naming people in the House who are not here to defend themselves.

I am sorry, but I am going to finish this point. There is an emergency care centre at Roscommon County Hospital and she could not be brought to that unit.

There is another way for the Senator to obtain that information.

If I had picked her up off the road and put her in my car, she would have been-----

The Senator is way over time.

This is more important. This is factual. Our hospital is being downgraded. I oppose this.

The Senator should have said that first.

The Senator is part of the Government that downgraded it. He cannot wash his hands of the matter. The Tánaiste made promises to Roscommon County Hospital, as did the Minister for Health and the Taoiseach.

Will the Senator, please, resume his seat?

They are a bunch of liars.

I ask the Senator to withdraw that remark.

What?

The Senator called people "liars".

Whom did I call a liar? I did not specifically mention anybody. I said they were all a bunch of liars.

I second Senator Terry Leyden's amendment, although I am surprised at his optimism if he expects the Minister for Health, Deputy James Reilly, to come to the House and know what is going on in Roscommon or any part of the HSE or health services. That has become evident to everybody, including those in his own party, at this stage.

I concur with Senator Ivana Bacik's comments on the Tánaiste, as he handled his exit from the leadership in a very dignified way. I had many differences with him over policy, but I acknowledge his courtesy and assistance in the many representations we made to his office in the past three years.

Will the Leader arrange the debate I previously sought regarding the Dublin and Monaghan bombings? I attended the commemorations at Talbot Street and I listened to the fine words of the Taoiseach and subsequently noted the comments of the President on justice for the victims. These fine words will be of no consequence if they are not backed up by strong action, particularly with the British Government and authorities, in finding the truth.

There are lessons to be learned from the recent election and these must be taken on board by everybody in these Houses, particularly the Government parties which control policy. The medical card issue is not the only matter, and it would be a major mistake to focus exclusively on it, although it is certainly a major problem. Other issues include the drugs payments scheme, which we noted on the campaign trail is putting pensioners in a position where they must cut back on the drugs they need because they cannot afford to meet their cost. That is a scandal. There are also people on waiting lists who are having difficulty accessing necessary services. Piling public hospital bed costs on private insurers on behalf of people who have for their entire lives paid social contributions is driving those people from the health insurance market because they cannot afford to pay the premia.

This is only a small part of a range of issues we must acknowledge, including the taxing of pensions, homelessness and the aces given by a former Minister, Deputy Alan Shatter, to bankers. People who have borrowed money and are the drivers of this economy - if they can extricate themselves from difficulties - have been left to the tender mercies of the bankers which caused this collapse. It is no wonder that people feel disaffected, and I support the call made for a rolling debate in this House that should involve the Ministers in Departments responsible for much of this disaffection. Across the party lines Members should not be afraid to concentrate on and criticise policies which have gone against the interests of citizens and the people. The Seanad is the place to do this. We should forget the tight control of Whips and look to represent the people, as that is what they want us to do. The public does not feel represented at this stage, which is the real message of the recent elections.