Democratic legitimacy of banking inquiry
A prolonged exchange disputes whether the Committee of Selection’s nominees were overridden by Government and whether the banking inquiry retains public credibility. Opposition senators demand restoration of the original democratic outcome or withdrawal from the inquiry, while Government supporters defend committee independence and reject claims of a political plot.
We are all grown adults. We all know what was envisaged or anticipated or meant to happen that one would be selected from each side. I think I proposed that at the committee but in any event people were missing. It was an incomplete committee as we know. We have two from each side now.
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I know of course. Senator Norris explained part of it. I am glad to see him back and glad he enjoyed Bloomsday. We now know that people on the Committee of Public Accounts, the Joint Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform and all the other committees act independently. We all act independently once we are in there. We wear our labels lightly on our sleeves, in fact, we do not wear them at all at committees.
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There will be no dictation whatsoever and there is no politburo. With respect, I think Senator O'Donovan aimed at the wrong party in regard to the politburo but be that as it may.
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Does the Senator mean they misled him?
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I say, let us calm it, rather than turn it into a bit of a scata bullán.
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Let us pretend there is nothing wrong is essentially what the previous speaker has just said. It is a fact that we need a banking inquiry but we only need one that is credible and has the confidence of the public. This one has lost all of that.
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The Senator may not want it to have the confidence of the public.
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Senator Healy Eames to continue without interruption, please. The Senator has just spoken.
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Senator Healy Eames has been provocative.
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Senator Coghlan, please. Senator Healy Eames, I allowed some latitude to the people who are on the committee. We are rehashing last week's business again today.
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I thank the Cathaoirleach. I would appreciate if the snide remarks from the other side of the House were cut short.
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Unless the Taoiseach honours the original result of the Committee of Selection and reverts to that, the only credible option is to ask all Opposition members to step down from the banking inquiry. This has lost the entire confidence of the country. I was shocked by what the Minister for Finance, a man for whom I have huge respect, said yesterday. He said that it was normal practice for a Government to add extra members. It is not normal practice that a democratic outcome to a vote would be ignored.
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Instead of a democratic revolution-----
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-----what we are actually getting is an autocratic revolution. On top of this the Taoiseach is the Minister for Defence as well. Let us think of the power that is there.
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This is very worrying. It is outrageous.
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This is a man whom I supported to be the Taoiseach and leader of this country.
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What I am trying to say is this.
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Are we in a parliamentary democracy or not? If so, let us accept democratic outcomes. I do not want an autocracy but, currently, that is what we are getting. We are getting fixing and tampering and the Taoiseach has attempted to abolish this House and to ignore a committee of this House. I repeat my call that unless we revert to the original result from the Committee of Selection for the members who were democratically elected to the banking inquiry, I ask in the interests of credibility and restoring public trust, that all Opposition members stand down.