I am. I want to finish this point. When the factories and farm organisations agreed on a new grid system some years ago it was supposed to benefit all in the industry such that quality would be paid for. Now the factories are using the grid system to their advantage. There are penalties in the same grade. Farmers face penalties for under age, over age and under weight cattle.

Senator, those are issues you can raise during the debate.

Certain breeds are being discounted. The quality assured bonuses are being reneged on. I offer one example. This week-----

Is the Senator seeking a debate?

I am seeking a debate. Under the old grading system, if a farmer had-----

Senator, you are way over time.

The farmer was repaid exactly the same. At present, the cattle are being discounted in some factories by 70 cent on other factories.

Senator, you are way over time.

An R3 grade animal is being discounted by 66 cent.

Senator, resume your seat, please.

An 03 animal, especially a heifer, is being downgraded by 87 cent.

Senator Mullen is next.

Sorry. I want to make one point.

You are way over time.

Senator Mullen is very interested in this.

Senator, you are way over time. We are all interested but you are way over time.

At present an R grade bullock is worth €230 in certain factories and an O grade heifer is worth €287.

Senator, you are way over time. Resume your seat, please.

We need a debate on this immediately.

Senator, resume your seat.