Bank guarantee and political accountability
Senator Gilroy challenges claims that all parties caused the economic collapse, while Senator Daly disputes the Government’s record; repeated interruptions lead the Chair to reprimand both sides.
Senator Norris charged the Minister in the Chamber yesterday of committing the grave error of splitting an infinitive and suggested that he required literacy lessons. I think some history lessons are need here because Senator Norris said all parties acquiesced in the destruction of this economy. History will show that along with Senator Norris, the Labour Party was the only party to oppose the bank guarantee on the night in question, which was one of the main contributors to the destruction of our economy.
The Fianna Fáil spokesperson said this budget represented a following of the late Brian Lenihan's four-year plan. If that is the case, it would be interesting to hear why Fianna Fáil has so vigorously opposed every measure the Government has been trying to implement over recent years, which culminated in a rather modest but significant and progressive budget yesterday. Fianna Fáil shouted and squealed when there were cutbacks, because it lamented them. It shouted and squealed when we maintained services, because it did not like the maintenance of services, and when we increased services in some areas, because that did not suit it either. Fianna Fáil is making a blatant and obvious political point out of this. The contribution of its spokesperson in the other House yesterday was greeted with derision. My colleague, Senator Coghlan, used the word "clownish" in regard to some of the contributions from Fianna Fáil Members in this House and I agree with him in that regard.
If this budget was an auction budget, how come its effect will increase GDP by 0.3%, which is certainly in the common good? Senator Daly lamented the fact that we are not spending enough-----
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For the information of the speaker, the calculation has been changed-----
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I will send Senator Gilroy a note on it, so that he will be up to speed.
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Senator Gilroy, without interruption. Senator Daly, you are only delaying the process.
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Senator Daly lamented the fact that we are engaging in auction politics, and yet in his contribution and in his heckling he has pointed to the fact we are not spending enough money. Senator Daly needs to-----
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The Government is not keeping promises. That is what it is not doing. It is an entirely different process.
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In my humble opinion, Senator Daly needs to do one of two things.
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If Senator Gilroy wants to make charges, he might want to look at the front page of the Irish Daily Mail or-----
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Senator Daly, you know you are not entitled to display newspapers. Senator Gilroy, to conclude.
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Not keeping promises on prescription charges and college fees will ensure the Labour Party gets the election result it deserves.
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Senator Daly, one of your colleagues will not be allowed to speak because I will stick to the time limit. Senator Gilroy, please finish up and do not attract attention. Senator Norris was completely right about this tit-for-tat, back and forth behaviour today. If there was someone in the Visitors Gallery who did not know anything about Irish politics, he or she would say we are shaming ourselves.
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The Leas-Chathaoirleach is quite right and I thank him for his advice.
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I suppose Senator Daly has made my point for me. He takes his literary references from-----
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I will continue to remind Senator Gilroy of prescription charges and college fees.
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Senator Daly takes his literary references from-----
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If Senator Gilroy wants to draw fire-----
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-----he should be able to take a response.
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Senator Daly, you have made about ten interruptions. As the acting leader of the Fianna Fáil group, you should act responsibly. Senator Gilroy, please do not continue to comment on what Senator Daly said and be more positive. You have gone over three minutes, which is most unlike you.
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The Leas-Chathaoirleach is quite right and I thank him for his advice on that matter. Senator Daly's contribution-----
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If Senator Gilroy wants to do that and does not expect me to interrupt-----
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He is not entitled to refer to Members of the House.
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I will sit down but if Senator Gilroy mentions my name and expects me not to reply, then he does not know me well enough.
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Senator Daly, please resume your seat. Senator Gilroy is over time. I call Senator Rónán Mullen.
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If I am over time, it can hardly be blamed on me.
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Senator Daly has used two minutes of my time.
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May I finish with one last comment?
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I can. If the acting leader of the Fianna Fáil group draws his literary references from the front page of the Irish Daily Mail, it surely explains all the-----
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We opposed the €3,000 college fees this year. The Labour Party voted for them.
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The Labour Party said it would get rid of the prescription charges but they are still in place.
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Senator Daly, if you stand up once more, I will ask that you be removed. You are most obstreperous today.