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‹ Order of Business

Irish Water amendment debate

Summary

Terry Leyden seconds the proposed Irish Water debate, while extended exchanges criticise the scheme’s creation, charges, bonuses and administration and press the Deputy Leader to schedule discussion.

It is an honour and a pleasure to second Senator Mary-Louise O'Donnell's amendment to the Order of Business.

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I thank the Senator.

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I am glad to be associated with it.

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The Senator is not necessarily my preferred choice, but he is here.

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Any port in a storm, my dear.

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I will attribute that to the Senator.

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You should be grateful for small mercies.

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Paddy Burke An Cathaoirleach Fine Gael

Speak through the Chair, please, Senator Leyden.

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The Senator made a very convoluted speech which I found hard to understand but besides that-----

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Convoluted or well written?

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Well written but convoluted.

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Paddy Burke An Cathaoirleach Fine Gael

Does the Senator have a question for the Deputy Leader?

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I am delighted that Senator Michael Mullins has taken an interest in the Roscommon-Galway constituency, where he looks like a potential candidate. He will have to resolve the water issue long before he dips his toe in that water.

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We will have it ready for the Senator by February.

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The Senator will have great difficulty getting a seat in that constituency on the next occasion, given the poll he received the last time. The construction of Irish Water shows the ineptitude of the Government. I look back at Charlie Haughey, who, as Taoiseach, established the IFSC, which currently employs 50,000 people.

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The good old days when Charles Haughey was Taoiseach.

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He had the ability to set up a company and make it work. The Government is unable to establish a company and make it work. That is obvious from what it has done to what was a successful water system in most parts of the country. One would think this water scheme had just been invented and that there had been no pipes in place for the last number of years. This particular tax is regarded as a poll tax. Senator Marie-Louise O'Donnell's mother is a very wise woman, but I am surprised to hear that the Senator was filling in her form if she is not going to pay. It was an unnecessary exercise.

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She is a very qualitative citizen.

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Paddy Burke An Cathaoirleach Fine Gael

Does Senator Terry Leyden have a question for the Deputy Leader?

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I have not filled in any form as yet. It is likely, with 1 million people not filling in the forms, that others will be encouraged to do likewise. There seems to be a revolution in the Labour Party and many may vote for a wise Fianna Fáil motion being debated in the other House recommending that the whole process be suspended for six months to a year to resolve all the teething issues before coming back with a proper approach.

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Paddy Burke An Cathaoirleach Fine Gael

The Senator is way over his time.

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We opposed the Water Services Act on this side of the House and are delighted that we did so. The question of paying bonuses to people who are not doing their jobs was the subject of great interest for every member of the public I met at the weekend----

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Paddy Burke An Cathaoirleach Fine Gael

The Senator can make these points during the debate.

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Senator Terry Leyden is becoming as convoluted as he accused me of being.

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When are we going to have the debate?

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Paddy Burke An Cathaoirleach Fine Gael

There is a proposal for a debate on the matter.

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Are you acceding to the request that we have a debate on it? I am delighted and hope the House will now actually accept the very wise proposal made.

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