In recent days I have received inquiries from sections of the media about whether I would join an Independent political party or whatever it was. They quoted a statement from Deputy Patrick O'Donovan of Fine Gael suggesting that there are 813,000 reasons people will not join this grouping, namely because they would have to sacrifice their Independent leaders' allowance.

Many Members of this House, to my certain knowledge, have taken a reduction in their income to serve the people. Yesterday, we were looking at the universities. It was perfectly obvious that middle-range academics and administrators get considerably more than Members of this House. I wish to point out to Deputy O'Donovan that these expenses are now fully vouched and passed by the Oireachtas. They are for political purposes and not for personal spending.

The reason I have not joined a political party is that I always campaigned and spoken as an Independent. I have always cherished my independence and I retain my independence. I have no intention at any stage ever of joining a political party. I have to be honest and say I have not been asked, so it is, to a certain extent, an academic question. That is the reason: I have not been asked and my natural instinct is-----

Why would Senator Norris dilute his own brand?

We are open to it.

The Fianna Fáil Whip has said he wants a word with me later.

Senator Wilson is making the request.

Senator, have you a question for the Leader?

I think we should be realistic. We get a comparatively modest income in this House and any expenses are vouched. I think the public should be satisfied with this. I think we should come to an end of this period of sackcloth and ashes for politicians. We work hard and we take a reduction in income to serve the people. I am puzzled by the attitude in some political quarters of flaying ourselves as politicians.