That is the type of person I am talking about.

I am delighted to be the first person in the Seanad today to welcome the retirement of Henry Shefflin, announced at noon. As a Tipperary man, I can say that he was the greatest hurler that ever graced the hurling field. As his former Kilkenny colleague, Michael Kavanagh, said this morning, he was a slow burner and did not get his first medal until playing on the under-21 team and he actually started on the intermediate team. He is a little bit like the Government, a slow burner, burning the dead wood of the previous Administration.

It is burning stuff all right - mostly bridges.

I call Senator van Turnhout. Perhaps we might get back to real issues, notwithstanding the great-----

It is a big issue where I come from.