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‹ Order of Business

Leader’s responses and business clarification

Summary

The Leader responds to Senators’ earlier concerns, defending corporation-tax and economic policies, noting that debates on crime, contracts, online business and economic matters may be arranged, and defending public-service reforms. He also explains the proposed timing and speaking limits for the day’s scheduled business.

Senator Daly raised the question of corporation tax. Corporation tax is a matter for this Government. It has stated that corporation tax will remain the same, irrespective of what the Senator may feel.

I was surprised that Senator Daly raised the question of borrowing. When we took office the country could not raise any money on the financial markets. We could not borrow but the deficit has been reduced significantly. We have very little borrowings in comparison with the state of affairs when we came to office. The Senator suggested that we are borrowing to run an election.

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Money to buy votes was the accusation.

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Of course, Fianna Fáil would know nothing about buying elections.

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I thank the Leader for his comment.

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We know that. It was probably other people who voted for his party. I have outlined the situation for credit on the international markets. I am surprised that a Fianna Fáil Member on the other side would raise a question on borrowing.

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Senator Bacik mentioned crime rates and burglaries. We have asked the Minister for Justice and Equality to debate the matter.

In regard to moves on collective bargaining, an issue also raised by Senator Higgins in the context of zero-hours contracts, as Senators will know, the Low Pay Commission will report back and I am sure the matter will be addressed by legislation at that time. I will find out when the legislation is due to reach this House.

Senator Quinn mentioned the ability of small and medium-sized businesses to trade online. It is a matter the Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade, Deputy Dara Murphy, has raised on several occasions. It is important that small and medium-sized enterprises can trade online.

That led to Springboard, the aim of which is to update skills. I refer not only to the skills of workers but also to those of people running businesses. Springboard is certainly a very good project. There is a need to update skills, as mentioned. There are many companies coming to the State, but we just do not have the skills they need. Therefore, upskilling is very important.

Senator Eamonn Coghlan referred to the issues of obesity and participation in sport and exercise. He referred to the importance of physical education, particularly in the senior cycle. Physical education in primary schools was mentioned yesterday. The Senator also emphasised the need to promote capital projects in order that people would have access to sports halls and so on. The Minister for Health, Deputy Leo Varadkar, is due to come to the House on 17 June for statements on tackling obesity. This will be an opportunity to engage in debate. We will try to get the Minister for Education and Skills to come to the House to discuss the other matters the Senator mentioned in respect of physical education.

Senators Terry Leyden and John Kelly referred to Ministers of State taking Commencement debates. I cannot dictate what Minister should come to the House to discuss the issues raised; that is a matter for the Government. There is very little that I can do in this regard. If a Senator does not want the Minister who turns up to take the debate, that Senator should not speak in the debate and should instead wait until another Minister is available. I have no control over who comes to the House to take Commencement debates.

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In fairness, the Leader has a lot of influence over them.

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I can assure the Senator I have no influence in that regard.

Senator David Norris made a similar point about the ordering of business. We will certainly consider whether we should retain the Commencement debate or revert to the Adjournment debate and have the Order of Business at 10.30 a.m., but I do not see too much change. There were not many more Senators present when we had the Order of Business at 10.30 a.m. I heard all of Senators' excuses, including about attendance at committees, and we changed the system to accommodate them, but they are still not coming. They are coming a minute or two before the Order of Business ends to catch the Cathaoirleach’s eye in order to speak. Nothing has changed in that regard. We have changed the time, but the level of participation of Members on the Order of Business has not changed very much. We will certainly examine the issue.

Senator Brian Ó Domhnaill referred to the spending of money like confetti.

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Fianna Fáil spent it like snuff at a wake.

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My God, when one hears it talking about there being no increases for the public service, bearing in mind that it introduced the universal social charge and the pension levy, and about morale in the public service and there being no reform, one wonders what the Croke Park and Haddington Road agreements were about. The public service made significant reforms through these agreements. Pay increases will be modest because the Government has managed the economy in a prudent manner and will continue to do so. The increases, if and when they are granted, will be achieved through negotiation, as always. I can assure the Senator that nothing will be done that will damage the economy.

Senator Paul Coghlan referred to the spring economic statement and called for a further debate on it. I will certainly try to have the Minister in the House again to discuss the matter.

Senator John Crown referred to problems in the health service. When the Government took office, the waiting lists only included people who had seen consultants and were awaiting operations. The Government has introduced a more transparent system, under which people who are waiting to see consultants are included in the waiting lists. That is why they are so large and unacceptable. I asked the Minister to come to the House today, as requested, but he is not in Dublin today. Therefore, I cannot accede to the Senator's request. However, I will ask the Minister to come to the House at a later date. The Senator was also correct to ask why consultants were not taking up the hundreds of posts vacant in the health service. Why do we have to seek locums? Why are the positions not being filled? This is a very serious question, to which we need an answer. As I stated, I cannot accede to the request that the Minister come to the House today.

Senator Paul Bradford referred to the public service. I addressed that matter in my reply to Senator Brian Ó Domhnaill.

Senator Labhrás Ó Murchú referred to an incident of which I was not aware. He is correct that there are many people trying to undermine the Garda. We have seen umpteen cases in recent times. There is certainly a danger with social media in the sense that people are defamed regularly. Something will have to be done about cyber-bullying, an issue which has been mentioned by Senator Lorraine Higgins and others. I hope the Government will make proposals in this regard. We have all been inundated with e-mails asking us to stop the Labour Party from introducing legislation on cyber-bullying as it might prevent freedom of speech. That is a load of rubbish. The matter needs to be addressed. I agree with the sentiments of Senator Labhrás Ó Murchú in this case.

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Paddy Burke An Cathaoirleach Fine Gael

Will the Leader clarify the speaking times on No. 2?

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No. 1, Sport Ireland Bill 2014 - Report and Final Stages, is to be taken at 12.45 p.m. and conclude not later than 2.30 p.m. No. 2, statements on Europe Day and the European Commission's work programme, is to be taken at 3 p.m. and conclude not later than 4.30 p.m., if not previously concluded, with the contributions of group spokespersons not to exceed eight minutes and those of all other Senators not to exceed five minutes and the Minister to be called on to reply not later than 4.25 p.m. No. 3, a motion regarding the EU Scrutiny Work Programme 2015, joint committees' priorities, is to be taken without debate at the conclusion of No. 2.

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