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Seanad
‹ Order of Business

Post offices and welfare payments

Summary

Senator O’Donnell calls for a debate on social-welfare forms that appear to favour bank payments over post offices and seeks protection for the post-office network.

Approximately one month ago I highlighted the particular situation which I rise to highlight again today. There are many banks in Ireland other than IBRC. As IBRC is now to be dealt with by way of inquiry, I ask that Senators concentrate this afternoon on the bank of the people, namely, the post office. I ask that the Leader invite the Tánaiste and Minister for Social Protection to the House for a debate on social welfare transactions, the new forms for which should be withdrawn as they blatantly recommend payment of social welfare payments through the banks, thereby discouraging use of the post office yet again. Is the Labour Party and Fine Gael way of doing business one of capitulating to the banks? The Irish Postmasters' Union has said that all post offices will be under threat of closure if social protection transactions are taken from them. How dare the Departments of Social Protection and Communications, Energy and Natural Resources recommend that bank accounts be the best option. I would have thought that the Tánaiste and Minister for Social Protection and the Minister for Communications, Energy and Natural Resources, Deputy Alex White, would be arguing at the Cabinet table in favour of post offices rather than for capitulation to the banks. We have no faith in the banks. I have no faith in them but I do have faith in Irish post offices and do not like to see them downgraded.

The post office is the greatest savings and savings certificate bank in the country. It offers the best rates. It does not rob customers and then ask them to pay back the robbers, as the banks did. If we do not retain post offices and their facilities as a major part of Irish society, we will have learned nothing. We have flittered away our sugar company, the lotto, our national resources, many of our national products, buildings and money to liars and thieves in valueless banks.

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

We are in flitters.

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I feel very strongly about this issue. Everybody is arguing about IBRC, but it will be dealt with in the investigation. Please pay attention to what is happening to post offices to ensure they are kept open in order that people will be able to use them as banks and that those who do not have bank accounts will be allowed to use them. They are a major and valuable resource and we will close them at our peril. We have already allowed upc to do this. I propose an amendment to the Order of Business that the Tánaiste and the Minister for Communications, Energy and Natural Resources, Deputy Alex White, be invited to the House to answer questions on this issue. Imagine a Labour Party Minister doing this-----

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Paddy Burke An Cathaoirleach Fine Gael

Will the Senator clarify the amendment? Is she proposing it today?

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