As regards the serious matter raised today by Senator Mark Daly, we discussed it yesterday in his absence. It was raised by several of us and Senators Labhrás Ó Murchú and Terry Leyden on the other side of the House spoke about it. The collusion is beyond all doubt. That has been established. We all praised the wonderful programme we saw the other night. What happened in the past was atrocious. The Taoiseach is meeting the British Prime Minister, Mr. Cameron, tomorrow and undoubtedly this matter was already set to be discussed. I am a member of committee A of the British-Irish Parliamentary Assembly and we have discussed the matter also and made recommendations. The point is that we are all agreed.

In the meeting with Mr. David Cameron, let them put the squeeze on.

Let us have a debate on the issue.

When the Senator meets the ambassador next time, can he ask him for the files?

I call for order, please.

I understand Senator Mark Daly's craven desire to have himself placed centre stage. He is a verbaliser.

The victims are centre stage.

Can we hear Senator Paul Coghlan without interruption, please?

It is time for him to shut up on this subject, because we are all agreed, and he will not get away with trying to meddle with the issue. It is far too serious.

Will the Senator demand the files?

Kerry is at war.

We are all agreed in this House.

We are not.

I do not want to say any more about it, because we are all agreed-----

The time for asking is over. He has to demand the files.