We all value our children, particularly the children who died in Berkeley. I want especially to remember Eoghan Culligan from Rathfarnham, my own area. Ballyboden-St. Enda's, our local GAA club, put out a great tribute to him, saying he was one of its star GAA players. I also sympathise with his parents, Gerry and Marie; his brothers, Stephen and Andrew, and his girlfriend. I want to remember them all and the families of all the children involved. The last speaker spoke about valuing our children and it is very important to value children, both living and dead.

I was a councillor for 20 years. Everyone on this side of the House has been speaking for councillors. I have asked for a debate on this issue as the Leader will verify when he replies. Another former councillor, Senator Denis Landy, also asked for a debate on the matter, prior to Senator Paul Coghlan asking for one.

I do not think so.

He did. The Senator should ask the Leader. No better men than the Leader, Senator Maurice Cummins, and Senator Paul Coghlan for supporting the rights of councillors. Having spent 20 years on a council and having sat on the Local Authorities Members Association, I can tell Senators that those of us on this side of the House will not stop. The Senator is dead right - councillors must have rights. Rights were taken from them, which was wrong-----

While Fine Gael was in government.

We are in government and will have a debate. I agree with Senator Diarmuid Wilson.

Is the Senator supporting the call for a debate?

I have asked for the debate previously, as has Senator Denis Landy who is supporting our call.

She can add her name to Senator Gerard P. Craughwell's motion.