Dispute over judicial criticism
Senators Paul Coghlan and Mark Daly continue a heated dispute over criticism of judges and sentencing for abuse, with the Chair repeatedly ruling that identifiable cases and personal attacks are out of order. Other Senators defend the Judiciary and cite the appeals process.
Senator Mark Daly sunk to a new low this morning. What he said about the respected Judiciary was outlandish and outrageous.
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I ask the Senator not to comment on something someone else has said in the House. Does he have a question for the Leader because I have ruled on that issue?
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Yes, I have. I respect the Cathaoirleach's ruling in respect of what the earlier speaker said.
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Just because the Senator knows and was involved in appointing so many of them does not mean that he has to stand over their judgments-----
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I was so glad it was followed by Senator Ivana Bacik who was able to refer to the good work of the justice committee-----
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-----when the perpetrators receive virtually no sentence and in some cases none at all.
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I know, but he started it. He hardly called my name in not wanting me to reply.
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I ask the Senator to respect the Chair. Does Senator Paul Coghlan have a question for the Leader?
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Senator Ivana Bacik referred to the very significant increase we have had in recent years in the appointment of so many lady judges at all levels in the Courts Service. When individual sentences and sentencing were spoken about by the acting Leader of the Opposition this morning, cases were identifiable, as the Cathaoirleach pointed out. We cannot speak about individual cases, which I respect. The behaviour of the Member opposite this morning is a disgrace to his party and this Chamber.
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It is as simple as this, Paul. The point I was making was white, middle aged, conservative men who were passing judgement on women, minorities and victims of child abuse should not be predominant in the Judiciary.
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Follow that. Appalling outrage on both sides.