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Transparency and lobbying regulation

Summary

Senator Nash condemns the Istanbul attack, then welcomes the first SIPOC lobbying report while calling for stronger enforcement powers.

Ged Nash Senator Gerald Nash Labour Party

I would like to share in the expression of sympathy to the people of Turkey after yesterday's horrendous terrorist attack and utterly meaningless loss of life. I share the condolences expressed by Senator Conway-Walsh. I visited Turkey on a number of occasions in recent years, once in an official capacity, and I was really struck by the warmth and hospitality of the Turkish people. Notwithstanding the fact that I am personally quite disturbed about the moves in Turkey towards a more autocratic style of government, our affection for the people of Turkey should remain. Our sense of anger at the horrendous attack in Istanbul airport yesterday is shared by everybody. We should all express our sympathy to the people of Turkey and the Turkish Government on the horrendous loss of life in Atatürk airport.

With regard to the situation at Console, I believe the comments made in the House by a number of speakers reflect the real public anger at the way in which certain directors of Console appear to have used the organisation as their own personal ATM in recent years. Over a period of time, lavish spending was clocked up on the charity's multiple credit cards, including on clothes, dental work and cash withdrawals. What we know now about how Console was run makes it very hard to comprehend where Console starts and where the interests of a number of directors ends. A charity should not be made or operated in the image of its founder or of any one person. If anything, it should be held up to an extremely high standard of corporate governance and ethical codes.

The scandal is a major test for the relatively newly founded Charities Regulatory Authority. A number of very important questions must be answered by the charities regulator, by the Government and by other agencies in an effort to restore trust in what is a very important organisation. In the first instance, there needs to be an unambiguous statement from the charity itself that its founding director is not still in charge, as there appears to ambiguity around that. The charities regulator must make it very clear how and when it is going to deploy a number of independent trustees to ensure there is robust governance in the organisation and that the organisation restore the public trust, which has been so badly damaged.

I also wish to establish whether the Office of the Director of Corporate Enforcement, ODCE, will investigate the alleged conduct of the directors concerned, which has been revealed in media reports in recent days. I agree that there has been a huge amount of public investment in Console. It was not only a matter of public financial resources; people trust the organisation and people trust the staff in Console. I would argue that there are a considerable number of people in this country who owe their lives to the services delivered to them by the organisation. In the efforts to establish the facts around this case and our efforts to re-establish trust in the organisation, which must happen, we should not in any sense blame the staff. Trust has to be restored, and it is the job of Government, the organisation itself and the relevant regulator to do that.

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

The Senator is over time.

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Ged Nash Senator Gerald Nash Labour Party

We are all concerned about transparency in public life. Yesterday was actually a good day for transparency in public life in Ireland because, as a result of the Lobbying Act introduced by the Labour Party in the last Government, the Standards in Public Office Commission, SIPOC, published its first report concerning the behaviour of registered lobbyists in the State. The report found that 2,500 returns were made by 1,000 registered lobbyists. There is still more to be done around this issue and we would like to see SIPOC given more teeth to investigate breaches of the Act and to ensure there is more compliance than seems to be the case at the moment. I do not believe that anybody in all seriousness would accept that there should only be 2,500 returns on 1,000 registered lobbyists in the State. We know that the picture is actually very different from that.

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