On a point of order, the Leader-----

No, I will not entertain it.

I ask that the Taoiseach come to answer-----

The Senator is out of order.

The last time we saw-----

I must ask the Senator to resume his seat.

The Leader's answer is not acceptable-----

The Senator is being deliberately disruptive.

Will the Leader ask the Taoiseach to come to the House to address us on Article 28 of the Constitution?

That is not a point of order. The Senator is totally out of order.

I do not accept-----

The Senator should sit down.

I do not accept that I am out of order. I raised the issue of Article 28 of the Constitution-----

The purpose in raising a point of order is to clarify something and the Senator is not doing that. He is being deliberately disruptive. I am telling him to sit down and we will hear the Leader respond.

The Leader has avoided the issue that I raised by misrepresenting it-----

I am not responsible for how the Leader handles matters raised. The Senator is out of order.

I am happy to reiterate to Senator Kevin Humphreys-----

Will the Leader ask the Taoiseach to come to the House?

-----that the example to which I referred earlier concerning the manner in which councillors' pay and conditions is handled also applies to the eighth amendment and other sensitive social issues. On two occasions in this Chamber we were able to produce a report and a Bill to have the issue addressed. As I understand it - I am not in the Cabinet-----

We will not get into an argument about it now.

-----the Attorney General said the Bill, as presented to the Lower House, was unconstitutional. My view is that if someone is a member of the Cabinet and a Bill is deemed to be unconstitutional, he or she should not proceed to vote for it, on two bases-----

Will the Leader ask the Taoiseach to come to the House?

No interruptions, please.

First, one is putting forward a Bill that cannot be enacted and, second, giving false hope and playing politics on a very sensitive issue-----

Will the Leader ask the Taoiseach to come to the House?

Please, Senator.

I will be happy to ask the Taoiseach to come, but I will not play politics on the issue.

I do not play politics on Article 28-----

The Senator is out of order. The Leader might address the Chair, rather than look across at other Senators.

I apologise; I am still learning.

It is all right.