I raise the issue of Seanad reform and the proposed relocation of the Seanad Chamber. According to reports in the media today, the former director of the National Museum of Ireland, Dr. Pat Wallace, spoke about the relocation of the Seanad and asked the when, where and what involved in the process. The issue of the relocation of the Seanad arose before I became a Senator and new Senators' knowledge of the proposed relocation is limited. Where is it proposed that we will go? The National Museum of Ireland building on Kildare Street is one of the locations mentioned, but we have no idea when the relocation will take place. The Minister of State with responsibility for the Office of Public Works should come to the House to outline precisely what his proposals are for the Seanad once the redevelopment project commences, including timeframes and costings. The media are reporting the project will cost €1.5 million. If such a sum needs to be spent, so be it, but we need to know the details involved. Not all Senators are based in Dublin. I am from Cork and I am not aware of any legislative provision that would prevent the Seanad from relocating to Cork, Galway, Belfast or elsewhere for a week.

Limerick.

Even Limerick, God forbid. If we are not wanted in Dublin, perhaps we might step outside the base and ask where the Office of Public Works will take us. If a location is being sought, we will definitely look for one. This issue should be addressed.

I raise the issue of the industrial relations chaos which appears to be consuming the Government. The performance of the Ministers in question, the Minister for Justice and Equality, Deputy Frances Fitzgerald, and the Minister for Education and Skills, Deputy Richard Bruton, has been such that they must be called to this Chamber. It is a little ironic that the Leader is a former ASTI shop steward. He must feel as baffled I am by the recent steps taken by the Minister for Education and Skills, in particular, his foolish decision to cease payments for supervision and substitution duties, which poured oil on extremely hot waters. Public servants across a range of key positions, including gardaí, teachers and nurses, are up in arms about the Government. As I reminded the Minister last week, the starting salary for a garda is €23,500. Is anyone in this Chamber prepared to stand over such a poor starting salary? How has it been beyond the competence of the Minister for Justice and Equality to address this issue in the months she has had to do so?

The public service workers to whom I refer are outraged. I wonder if there is something in the Fine Gael gene that just means that it is not able to negotiate with trade unionists. It is something the party needs to fix as a matter of urgency because we are facing into chaos. Parents are very worried and people living in rural communities are also very worried about crime. The Government needs to take action and all we have heard so far are media sound bites. This is worse than poor behaviour, it is incompetence. I ask the Leader to arrange urgently for both Ministers to come to the House to account for how they have landed themselves in this huge mess.