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Industrial relations response

Summary

The Leader responded at length to the industrial relations debate, urging all sides to seek agreement, defending the Government’s position, and noting the contribution of teachers and Defence Forces personnel. The exchange briefly continued on Government time for a wider discussion.

I thank the 19 Senators who raised issues on the Order of Business. On the industrial relations issue raised by Senators Ardagh, Humphreys, Coffey, Craughwell and Devine, it is important that we all speak with one voice in calling on the Association of Secondary Teachers in Ireland, ASTI, the Garda Representative Association, GRA, and the Association of Garda Sergeants and Inspectors, AGSI, to engage and reach a meaningful conclusion. I disagree with Senator Humphreys because the Government is available and willing in this regard and as he knows well, under the previous Government the Lansdowne Road agreement was the umbrella all the unions came under.

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There was a strategy under the previous Government.

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It is important that we use proper language and that we understand what is at stake here. As Senator Coffey rightly said, the economic recovery of our country is fragile and there is a duty of care on the Minister and on the Government to act responsibly. I appeal to all-----

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One cannot do that if one's head is in the sand.

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

Order please. The Leader is responding.

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My head is very much in the air. As a former-----

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Everything we do in government is about equality. I do not intend to engage in a public war of words here because as a member of the ASTI and somebody who wants to see this issue resolved, I am aware there are young people in the Public Gallery, some of whom are doing examinations, but as Senator Craughwell rightly said, there is a multiplicity of schoolteachers across the country doing a huge amount of voluntary work, whether it is projects, plays, musicals, training teams and so on. We must recognise the importance of the work they do both outside and inside the classroom but what the Government has committed to is pay restoration, whether it is for the new entrants or the existing teachers. In that regard I will not be lectured to by some of the Members opposite because it was their policies that resulted in the need for us to bring in the financial emergency measures in the public interest, FEMPI, legislation, and they should reflect upon that. We must ensure that we have a sustainable public service that is not based on privatisation, as Senator Devine said. I certainly do not want to see the public sector privatised and nor do I see many in Fine Gael who want to do that, so that is a misrepresentation but we must have an efficient, well-resourced, well-managed public service. I appeal to those on all sides to come back to the table and engage because it is vitally important that a resolution is achieved. Nobody wants to see members of An Garda Síochána, schoolteachers or any public sector workers on strike, and we all recognise the hardship that resulted from the cuts that were inflicted but the fundamental point is that this Government, as did the previous Government, have started to restore pay.

I thank Senators Craughwell and Feighan for raising the issue of the men from the 35th Battalion who fought in Jadotville. A presidential unit citation was presented to the soldiers and the next of kin-----

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-----in the barracks in Athlone by the Minister of State, Deputy Paul Kehoe. It is important, and I have always said this in the House, that we recognise the sacrifice and the heroism of former members of our Defence Forces, who are celebrated across the world, whether it is the Congo, Lebanon or wherever. To be fair to Senator McFadden, she has been very involved in this issue also because of the importance of the Army in her area. We will continue to work with the Minister to see if we can bring about a resolution to this matter. I cannot promise that we will but I am happy to take up the matter further.

Senators Conway-Walsh and Wilson spoke about unaccompanied minors and the refugee crisis that is engulfing parts of the work, in particular in the so-called jungle, in Calais. It behoves all of us to play a role in ending the misfortune taking place there. The Tánaiste and Minister for Justice and Equality, Deputy Fitzgerald, has agreed to come to the House to address the issue of unaccompanied minors. She stated in the United Nations that Ireland is willing to play its part to address the issue. A global response and co-operation to end the suffering must be forthcoming.

On the matter raised by Senator Grace O'Sullivan, I have offered the Senator a date for the Bill. It is not one that is conducive to her schedule but I am happy to sit down with the Senator and agree a timetable at the group meeting at 2 p.m. I have it on the calendar for the month of November but I am happy to discuss that with the Senator with a view to reaching an accommodation on the Bill. I appreciate the importance of it.

Senator Lombard raised the issue of electric cars. We will have the Minister, Deputy Naughten, come to the House to address that issue.

Senator Swanick raised the issue of attacks on emergency first responders. It is deplorable that any member of the emergency services is attacked under any guise. Regardless of who they are, we must always show respect for the role played by emergency services personnel. They do tremendous work. They put their own lives at risk in the protection and safety of others and we should stand united in the condemnation of these attacks. I would be happy to have the Minister come to the House to address the issue the Senator raised.

Senator Norris referenced the motion in his name and those of the Sinn Féin Senators in the main. If he wishes to take it by way of a Private Members' motion, that is up to his group. I know the Senator is not a member of a group but he may wish to talk to them. I have no issue in terms of-----

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

I understood from the Leader earlier that one hour of Government time would be made available.

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

Order, please.

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I would be happy to talk about it at the group meeting at 2 p.m.

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