Rent certainty and amendment agreed
The Leader wrapped up the Order of Business by responding to the many rent certainty contributions, stressing the need for the Bill to proceed for tenants in Dublin and Cork. The House then returned to Senator Daly’s amendment on motion No. 30, and the Leader accepted it, with the amendment agreed.
How does one follow the last few contributions? I thank the 22 Members who spoke for their vigorous contributions.
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They were intelligent contributions.
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Yes, they were. Reference was made to the use of language and scripts. I noted all of the comments made in my Notebook.
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My best reply to the contributions made on the Order of Business is to bring the vibes down an octave or two. I ask Members to reflect wisely on what we have discussed.
Thirteen Senators referred to the Bill before the Dáil. As Senator Kieran O'Donnell said, thankfully, the Dáil will debate it today and tomorrow and I hope it will reach us on Tuesday. It is important that we put the matter in context and park all of our political ideology. There are 132,000 tenants in Dublin and 18,000 in Cork who are awaiting the legislation. It is important, therefore, that the Bill progress. The Minister for Housing, Planning, Community and Local Government, Deputy Simon Coveney, is determined to work with all sides to bring about certainty and achieve security for tenants and landlords. The job of this House is to decide its own business and do an effective job. I am confident that we will do so in a timely and positive manner. Like me, Senator Ned O'Sullivan is a pragmatist. We were both right to wait for a resolution to take place this afternoon. Let us put the matter in context because some Members have a misguided notion of the rental market. There are more tenants than landlords. The legislation represents a major and radical intervention in the rental market. Senators have stood on the mountain and talked about the landlord class and the lack of an intervention by the Government. I urge them to read the statement issued by the ESRI yesterday. I outline for Members, Sinn Féin Party Members in particular, that if one was to intervene too aggressively, the supply of housing would be shut off. We must have supply. I am confident that the Minister who has worked with Deputy Barry Cowen of Fianna Fáil and, to be fair, Deputy Eoin Ó Broin of Sinn Féin will get the legislation right. It has not been rushed. Let me put the matter in context. We gave it a long, detailed and considered hearing in this House. Deputy Simon Coveney has been one of most willing Ministers to come to the House and has engaged with Members on all sides. In his contributions on Second, Committee and Report Stages he flagged that he would table amendments and deal with the issue of rent certainty. The process was agreed to by all of us.
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No, we agreed to it in group meetings.
The process was agreed to. The Senator cannot have it both ways.
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I was not here. The Leader should check the vote register.
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You cannot talk out of both sides of your mouth.
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The legislation has been subject to three months of consultation, as well as being the subject of more than 500 written submissions. I appeal to Members. The language we use is important. If we have learned anything from Brexit and the American election, it is that our language and what we say are critical. Let us not undermine the strategy or the process. Let us ensure we have a Bill that tenants and landlords will want to see passed in order that we can reach an outcome that will provide certainty and security. The last thing we, as Members of the House who are charged with the responsibility of enacting legislation, want is to have flawed legislation passed. That would not make sense and would be wrong. Let us have calm and reflection.
On what Senator Rose Conway-Walsh said about the banks, I do not like to hear her use words such as "robbery", "theft" and "lies". I would much prefer if we had a debate about the banking system letting people down. I would be very happy to arrange such a debate in the new year. We should all look at the report on the banking inquiry and what is stated in it and the other associated reports.
Senator Kevin Humphreys spoke about new politics. I remind him that what people do not want to see is old style Punch and Judy politics, to which he resorted. What they want to see is action being taken by all of us. I would be happy to have the Taoiseach come to the House at any time, but he is not the line Minister with responsibility for the Bill. The responsible Minister is Deputy Simon Coveney who I hope will be in the House on Tuesday to discuss the Bill. I would be happy for the Taoiseach to come to the House in the new year to discuss the issue of Seanad reform or any matter pertaining to his Department, but, please, let us put things in context.
I will not go through the contributions of all Senators on the Planning and Development (Housing) and Residential Tenancies Bill.
I am very happy to accept Senator Mark Daly's amendment to the Order of Business. On a very serious note, I recognise the significance of the motion which conveys our thanks to the National Parks Service of the United States. As Senator Mark Daly rightly said, Ireland is just one of 17 countries to be given this distinction and unless I am mistaken, it is one of only five plaques to be placed at the Washington Monument, which is an indication of the significant contribution made by the State in the eyes of the United States of America. I thank the men and women of the National Parks Service of the United States which is part of the US Department of the Interior as it is an acknowledgement of the huge contribution made in the 1916 Rising, following which many people emigrated to the United States where they played a role in civic life. The motion is important and I am happy for it to be taken today.
Senator Fintan Warfield referred to the Genealogical Society of Ireland in Dún Laoghaire. I am not familiar with the case mentioned, but I would be happy for the Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport, Deputy Shane Ross, to come to the House to discuss the matter, most likely in the new year.
Senator Michelle Mulherin referred to the drug Orkambi. We all welcome the engagement of the drug company with the HSE and hope to see a positive outcome.
Senators Máire Devine, Kieran O'Donnell and Colm Burke raised the issue of staff in the Health Service Executive and the health system. I join Senator Máire Devine in thanking the men and women who work on the front line in the health service and all those who will be working on Christmas Day on behalf of the State. As someone who had the pleasure of working on Christmas Day when I worked in Cork University Hospital, I am aware that it is a day on which many people are separated from their loved ones, but they act in the spirit of serving others. I congratulate the Senator on raising the issue. However, I disagree with her assessment of the HSE's recruitment campaign which I believe is a good one. It is great that we are encouraging nurses to come home to work in the health system. The Senator should welcome people back into the health system with open arms. As we are crying out for people to work in the health system, we should encourage them to come back to work and live here. This has become a great country which we have rebuilt once again.
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Unless they come back to work in private nursing homes.
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Senators Padráig Mac Lochlainn and Frank Feighan referred to the events which occurred in Jadotville in the Congo in 1961. I have seen the film and one cannot but be struck by the bravery of the men involved and the fact that no Irish soldier was lost in the battle. The Minister organised an event in Custume Barracks in which she presented a citation to the men of A Company of the 35th Infantry Battalion. As Senator Gabrielle McFadden outlined previously, it was the first time a citation was awarded to a unit of the Defence Forces. The Minister has commissioned an insignia to recognise the professional performance of the men of A Company, but like Senator Frank Feighan and others, I agree that it is important that we try to make more progress if we can. We are always reacting to historical and various other events. The soldiers referred to were treated badly; they were treated as outcasts when, in fact, they were not. I encourage all Members who have not seen the film to watch it over Christmas because it is an extraordinary portrayal of the bravery of the men in question who deserve our thanks and appreciation.
Senator Frank Feighan also referred to the possibility of Lloyds of London becoming Lloyds of Dublin. I hope that will come to fruition. Equally, he mentioned the possibility of the European Banking Authority and the European Medicines Agency coming to Dublin. I hope that, too, will come to fruition.
Senator Trevor Ó Clochartaigh referred to the JobPath scheme. The Minister for Social Protection, Deputy Leo Varadkar, has been holding meetings with representatives of community employment schemes and is looking into the matter. Many of us have spoken to him about it. He acknowledges and values the work being done across many schemes and is anxious to find a positive solution to improve communities. I would be happy for him to come to the House in the new year to speak about the issue.
I will not engage in a discussion on economics back and forth with Senator Diarmuid Wilson.
Senator Colm Burke again referred to the health service. I would be happy for the matter to be discussed in the new year.
Senator Niall Ó Donnghaile raised the issue of Misneach, mar gheall ar chúrsaí Gaeilge. It is my fault that the Minister of State, Deputy Seán Kyne, will not be in the House before Christmas; it is not his. He is willing to come to the House, but I will hold him off until the new year because of the pending legislation we want to have passed. However, I assure Senator Trevor Ó Clochartaigh who raised the matter previously that the Minister of State will be in the House in the new year.
I wish Senator Ray Butler well in his quest to have the Book of Kells returned to County Meath.
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I am sure there will be strong resistance from many arms of the State in that regard. I remind Senator David Norris that there will be an Order of Business on Tuesday morning.
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Let me remind the Leader that an amended Order of Business was circulated while the House was sitting.
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It was circulated before the Order of Business.
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To clarify for the House, it was circulated electronically before the Order of Business. The Senator should be fair.
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It is important that we be accurate and do not impugn those who work very hard. I wish to be very clear that it was circulted electronically prior to the Order of Business.
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Yes. Next Tuesday on the Order of Business - an intelligent one - at 11 a.m. we will have an opportunity to wish people a happy Christmas. I apologise to Members that we did not have an opportunity to engage in a longer debate because of the state of flux in the Dáil, but there is a timetable to which we agreed at the leaders' meeting last week for the business to be conducted. It will be a long day.
I thank the leaders of all the groups for their co-operation during this term. There has been a very positive working relationship. We can put the swords back in the scabbards for a moment while I thank all of the leaders and the Whips for their co-operation. I also thank the staff in the Seanad Office. There was very positive engagement at the Committee on Procedure and Privileges on the need to reinforce and strengthen the Seanad Office because we have dedicated individuals who do extraordinary work on behalf of the people and who sometimes do not receive the credit they deserve. They are under the watch of Mr. Martin Groves and do Trojan work, for which they should be acknowledged and thanked.