We can argue about its quality or lack of quality. Yes, it is popular to knock the salaries of high earners - Senator Norris did a good job defending us here today - and it is necessary to examine how and what one pays people but we must have a public broadcaster that is independent and can produce not just news, sports and current affairs programming but also drama and coverage of arts, culture and all levels of Irish life. We should congratulate RTE because it provides a good service in many areas, even if we might not agree with its editorial policy at times. Senator Humphreys is correct that collection of the licence fee could be improved. He said that 13% of it is not collected-----

It amounts to €25 million per year.

That must be examined. We all grew up watching the TV sponger advertisements on the television and the threat of the van outside one's door. I remember those advertisements well. It is an issue we must consider. I agree that we should invite the Minister for Communications, Climate Action and Environment, Deputy Naughten, to the House to discuss the matter.

Senator Lombard raised incineration and the Indaver application. During the oral hearing last year the Air Corps made a presentation on the flight path to Haulbowline and the location of this incinerator. There is a huge need to allay the safety concerns that were expressed at that hearing. In addition, if there is any doubt regarding the safety of Air Corps personnel or of any aircraft flying overhead, the application should be refused. I hope An Bord Pleanála, which is diligent in its assessment of the information, will reject the application.

To reply to Senator Swanick, I do not have a date for the sale of alcohol Bill. My most recent information is that it is with the Office of the Attorney General where it is undergoing scrutiny. However, I will refer back to the Senator on it.

Senator Gavan spoke about ICTU and income inequality. I accept that we need income equality and that we must raise people out of poverty. However, 140,000 taxpayers are paying more than 45% of the income tax and USC yield. That is €9 billion in cash and 18% of all tax collected. The top ten corporate taxpayers are paying €3 billion. As a nation, we are reliant on €1 out of every €4 collected in taxes. I remind the Senator that the last Government and this Government increased the minimum wage and took many people out of the universal social charge net. Now, people earning up €13,000 are paying no universal social charge, a third of earners are paying no income tax and 30% are paying no income tax or universal social charge. The most recent CSO figures show that annual disposable income increased by 6.2% in 2015 and that income is being more equally distributed in the country. Finally, 920,700 people are exempt from paying income tax. That includes the unemployed and pensioners. The question we should debate, which some members of the Senator's party oppose, is how we can increase the tax base whereby we can pay for services.

We are not opposed to that at all.

The Senator's party is for high spending and high taxes-----

Bring on the debate.

-----but it cannot live in that utopian bubble all the time. One must live in the reality.