The Leader is not shy himself.

That is a fair point. The Minister is as eager as anybody to have the matter resolved.

Is that why he is doing nothing about it?

It is important that we get a balance in regard to the dispute. It is also about efficiencies and about a model that involves having a secure public-----

What about Government policy?

I did not interrupt the Senator.

I ask Senator Gavan to allow the Leader to continue.

I want to have a public transport system that serves the commuters of this country. As Senator Gavan knows well from his experience of being involved in activity, cheap talk will not solve this.

Cheap talk is Government policy and the Leader knows it.

Equally-----

It will not be solved by the Sunday Independent either.

The Leader should take responsibility for his party's part in six years of failed Government policies.

I fully understand the personal impact this dispute has had on Bus Éireann workers. As I have said, this is about having a bus company. Government policy is supportive of the PSO model. That is why there has been an increase in the amount of money provided. Some €230 million has been provided to Bus Éireann across the PSO through free travel, capital programmes and school transport programmes. As Senator Gavan knows quite well, that figure was increased again in the most recent budget. Mar fhocal scoir on this issue today in this House, I appeal to all sides. I think there is a meeting of minds in this House. We want to see the dispute resolved. It will not be resolved by being on the national airwaves, on local radio or in the print media - it will be resolved by re-engaging. That requires the management and the unions to sit down and engage.

And the Minister.

Then, when we have this matter resolved, I am sure the Government and the Minister, Deputy Ross, will be very happy to talk to all sides as well.