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Garda Commissioner controversy

Summary

A heated and prolonged row develops over Sinn Féin’s motion on the Garda Commissioner, with accusations, points of order, and a temporary suspension of the House. Senators later argue over whether the commissioner should go, while the Chair repeatedly tries to restore order.

I second the proposed amendment to the Order of Business by Senator Swanick. I welcome the fact that Sinn Féin is attempting, democratically, to remove a member of An Garda Síochána, namely, the Garda Commissioner because over a period of 35 years, its colleagues in the IRA have removed over 24 members of An Garda Síochána-----

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Point of order-----

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-----by murdering them.

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On a point of order, please.

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Denis O'Donovan An Cathaoirleach Fianna Fáil

What is the point of order, Senator?

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I have no colleagues in the IRA. Sinn Féin and the IRA are two very distinct and-----

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Denis O'Donovan An Cathaoirleach Fianna Fáil

That is not a point of order.

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-----separate organisations. Sinn Féin is certainly not responsible for the accusations made by Senator Wilson.

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Surely that is defamation.

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Denis O'Donovan An Cathaoirleach Fianna Fáil

That is not a point of order.

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I resent the implication-----

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Denis O'Donovan An Cathaoirleach Fianna Fáil

Senator, that is not a point of order. Please respect the Chair-----

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The Leader may laugh-----

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Denis O'Donovan An Cathaoirleach Fianna Fáil

Respect the Chair.

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The Leader may laugh at such a serious accusation but it will be a cold day in hell before I allow him-----

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Denis O'Donovan An Cathaoirleach Fianna Fáil

Respect the Chair, please.

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-----given where his party comes from, to discredit my party or any member of it.

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With respect, it was not me. It was Senator Wilson.

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Denis O'Donovan An Cathaoirleach Fianna Fáil

Please allow Senator Wilson to continue.

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I have said what I have said and-----

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Denis O'Donovan An Cathaoirleach Fianna Fáil

Senator Wilson, without interruption-----

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On a further point of order-----

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Denis O'Donovan An Cathaoirleach Fianna Fáil

Senator Ó Donnghaile-----

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He is saying that his lie is a fact. That is not in order.

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Denis O'Donovan An Cathaoirleach Fianna Fáil

Senator Ó Donnghaile, please resume your seat.

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That is not in order.

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Denis O'Donovan An Cathaoirleach Fianna Fáil

Please resume your seat. That is not a point of order.

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It is not in order for him to make those accusations.

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Denis O'Donovan An Cathaoirleach Fianna Fáil

I have ruled against you twice. If you stand again, I will adjourn for 15 minutes.

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Perhaps the Cathaoirleach could rule on whether it is in order-----

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Denis O'Donovan An Cathaoirleach Fianna Fáil

I have ruled against you, Senator.

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Perhaps the Cathaoirleach will explain to me-----

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Denis O'Donovan An Cathaoirleach Fianna Fáil

I have ruled against you, Senator.

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Perhaps the Cathaoirleach will explain to me, under Standing Orders-----

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Denis O'Donovan An Cathaoirleach Fianna Fáil

Allow me to explain-----

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Allow me to elaborate on my point-----

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Denis O'Donovan An Cathaoirleach Fianna Fáil

No, I am suspending the House-----

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Is it in order? How is that in order?

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Denis O'Donovan An Cathaoirleach Fianna Fáil

-----for 15 minutes.

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The Cathaoirleach does not like Fianna Fáil being challenged.

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Denis O'Donovan An Cathaoirleach Fianna Fáil

If the Senator would like to conclude, he has one minute left.

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The Fianna Fáil Party in the Lower House could not support the motion by Sinn Féin because it would have been illegal to do so. The Government is the only body which can take a decision to dismiss a member of An Garda Síochána.

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