There have been a few false dawns. We had a firm commitment to address this issue, as the Leader is aware because he has been quite active in this respect.

Thank you.

I did not want to leave this issue unaddressed. The time for addressing it has come and gone, which is the reason I raised it.

I appreciate that. I was not referring to the Senator per se. It is important that, collectively, we work to ensure there is success in terms of the pay and conditions of councillors who are doing a huge amount of work in changed circumstances. We recognise that there needs to be an increase in their pay. That is not a matter of us trying to appease our electorate, rather it is based on the fact that we must recognise that the work of a councillor has changed over time. It has now become a more full-time role. We must keep people interested and involved in local government and not lose a body of knowledge and experience that could be lost at any time.