Is there a shortage of paper? In the old days, we used to get little pieces of paper on which to make notes.

That is right.

There has been much talk about political accountability on the face of a couple of emails and so on, but what about the real problems? No one seems to be addressing them. First, two of the major organisations of the State - the Department of Justice and Equality and the Garda Síochána - conspired together knowingly to make false accusations against a citizen of the State and to frame him. Had that citizen not had a tape recording of that meeting, he could have been destroyed and the false accusations would have been held against him.

Hear, hear.

Nothing has been done about the two people involved in that conspiracy. This is the real question of accountability.

They got their pensions and are gone with them.

Yes.

Order, please.

Second, the Department failed to accede to an order for discovery. If the Taoiseach had not demanded a trawl of the Department, we would not have had this discovery. I know a little about discovery. During my many triumphant legal actions, we sought discovery against RTÉ and RTÉ was forced to disclose information, including tape recordings, that destroyed its case. It had to do it. I understand it to be a criminal offence not to comply with an order for discovery. Third, a senior garda met Deputy McGuinness, who is a most honourable man, in a car park in an attempt to influence the business of a committee.

Here are three issues in respect of which there should be accountability, and much more so than the political accountability, searching for heads and political jockeying there has been regarding political figures. Let us address the real situation, where citizens of the State potentially have their rights, futures and livelihoods destroyed by a criminal conspiracy among organs of the State. That should worry anyone who is interested in democracy.

Hear, hear.