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Palestine and horse racing fund

Summary

Niall Ó Donnghaile linked the homelessness crisis with the much worse conditions faced in Palestine and Gaza. Brian Ó Domhnaill then raised the evening debate on the horse and greyhound racing fund and asked that the Minister remain to answer questions.

It is not hostile at all.

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Maybe when we ask for it the Leader will not give us the kind of cheek that he has given us over this past session.

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The Senators asked for it yesterday.

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I want to add to the remarks by my colleague, Senator Gavan, regarding today being the UN international day of solidarity with the Palestinian people. It is not to diminish the harsh reality faced by people in this city, and across the State and across Ireland in its entirety, as the homelessness crisis continues and we face into the winter months. Yet it pales into insignificance compared to what the people of Palestine, and especially Gaza, will face this winter. They will be without electricity, access to health care or the basics that many of us take for granted here. At all times, but especially as we approach Christmas, we should do our best to express solidarity with the Palestinian people.

Solidarity can take many different forms. It can go from raising it on the floor of Parliament to hosting a public meeting, attending a protest, observing a boycott or informing oneself about what is happening to the people of Palestine and what they are forced to endure. There is a particular onus on the people of Ireland given our own experience of conflict to share one form of solidarity, which is how we learned to transform our society out of conflict and build reconciliation. The best expression of solidarity with the Palestinian people is to work and commit ourself to ensuring a just and peaceful settlement for the people there.

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I want to highlight the debate taking place this evening on the horse and greyhound racing fund. The Leader agreed to my request that the debate be extended beyond the original 45 minutes. We are looking at the allocation of some €64 million next year to the horse and greyhound racing fund.

There are major issues within the greyhound sector. The Irish Greyhound Board will receive in the region of €307,000 in subvention per week next year. I ask that sufficient time be granted this evening so all interested Senators can partake in the debate. More important, I ask that the Minister stay to answer questions. I am not sure whether this can be facilitated.

I agree with Senator Gerard Craughwell on the approach of trying to get a political scalp. It is not the right way to serve our country in the best interest of citizens. Trying to take someone else out will not improve the accountability of the Government or the governance of our country, nor will it help those who require State services most. We must fundamentally rethink how we do government and how civil servants respond to requests from Ministers, this House and the Dáil, particularly at a very senior level. We must remember that the senior civil servants in this jurisdiction are not accountable at the ballot box. Therefore, serious questions arise over responsiveness, accountability, and the way organisations are managed, controlled and run.

There is a big question whose answer eludes us all - the question of whether the Department of Justice and Equality has been captured by the senior management within An Garda Síochána. We can all give our opinion or view. There is now a requirement, as we approach 100 years of independence, to review our Civil Service and determine whether it is fit for purpose? Is senior management held to account or not? This thinking could extend to the local government sector. In my view, senior management across the local authorities is not held to account by councillors because the latter do not have the power to do so. Therefore, there is a real need to examine this.

It is easy to go after a politician, ask another Minister to step down, or go after the current Minister for Justice and Equality, Deputy Charlie Flanagan. That is not the right approach here. If we are to do the State some service — what happened over the weekend certainly did — we should be looking further than the political system. We must consider the core realm of responsibility across all Departments, which is at senior civil servant level.

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

On a point of order, the Senator referred a number of times to Members going over their time. In the old Seanad Chamber, there was a clock. I suggest that a clock be put on the wall.

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

There is a clock on the wall.

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

It is terribly small; it is like a watch.

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

I have a clock here. It is the same as in the previous Chamber.

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

Could I remind the House that, despite our many talents, Senators do not have eyes on the backs of their heads. If we are addressing the Chair, we cannot be looking at the clock.

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

The Chair determines the order.

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

The Senators are all out of order. I call on the Leader to respond.

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