I am not here to make party political points.

The Senator is and he has just done it.

Order, please. I ask the Senator to wind up.

I am finishing.

He has done it.

I ask Senator Mullen to wind up. His time is up.

In fairness, let us say I am wrong. Let us say I am accidentally wrong.

I cannot get into an argument now.

Accidentally wrong.

The Senator's time is up.

To get a defensive attitude from Government suggests that what it is interested in is the prestige of the party-----

Is the Senator calling for a debate? We cannot have a debate now.

Go away out of that.

-----not the core of the issue. The Leader can correct me courteously if I am wrong. May I conclude on what I was asking for?

Is the Senator calling for a debate?

What I want and what I believe is imperative is that whether I am right or wrong it should not cause offence if we really care about human dignity. I would like the Minister for Health to explain to the House, if this situation has been allowed to happen in the ways that I worry about, how many members of the public have lost their lives as a result, if that is true.

The Senator has used up twice his time.

How many people are at risk of missing out on life-saving treatment because of the current crisis? I am not saying anyone is personally to blame but it is a serious crisis which should not be responded to in a party political defensive way, I suggest.

What is the Senator doing himself? He is being political.