Good.

It is about ensuring balanced economic development.

I am glad that Senator Craughwell is okay.

We heard about his scare during his fine interview on radio. He did well. The national trauma centre strategy report - I have lost my written note - has been published. One in four people is transferred out of the centre that they attend. Time is critical. I cannot find my note,-----

Yes.

-----but it is important to tell the Senator. I read an article in The Irish Times written by the president of the Royal College of Surgeons in Ireland, Professor John Hyland. He called for the trauma report to be implemented. Time is critical. Perhaps we are mirroring the UK's 2010 model, although I am not saying that that is a good thing. We need a realistic debate on where to locate services. Perhaps I am in a minority of one on this matter, but-----

I disagree. The Leader is right.

No, I have not finished yet.

Transportation to those centres-----

Yes, and-----

Senator Craughwell cannot ask questions at this point.

-----that is the issue on which we can have a debate. I understand that people in many parts of the country are in the time-critical zone. Two and a half, three or eight hours waiting in a bed was a good record for Senator Craughwell in our health system.

As a public patient.

I will use that as a template for other Senators. I am glad that the Senator is okay. I say that genuinely.

I do not mind depending on how good the services are.