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Permanent TSB loan sale and pay

Summary

Senator Norris criticised the proposed Permanent TSB loan sale and urged Government opposition, while also condemning the ECB and raising low pay for Senators compared with civil servants. The Chair objected to his language, but the exchange continued into a broader complaint about parliamentary remuneration.

Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

The matter is being discussed tomorrow.

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

The Government should immediately indicate to the board of Permanent TSB its opposition to this sale. Deputy McGuinness will introduce in the Dáil a revised version of the Bill we had in this House produced by Mr. Ed Honohan, and that is very welcome. We should in this country be prepared to say "bugger off" to the European Central Bank, ECB. Those were the people who helped to create this situation-----

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

That is an unparliamentary term.

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

It is not on the list of excluded terms.

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

What about the judgment of the Chair?

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Perhaps we could get the list.

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

The ECB was criminally involved in the financial distress of this country.

Speaking of financial distress, I have been pilloried to some extent in the columns of Ms Miriam Lord - I had to look for her name on my sheet - after raising the question of the wages we get from this House. She gave half my argument in a frivolous way. I am glad she thinks it is funny. To show how gutless we are in this House and how much we lack respect for ourselves, by my calculation, 111 of the civil servants employed by us in this House get more than we do. That is twice the number of Members in this House. We are pilloried when we say this is not the rate for the job. We need to look at this and show some respect for ourselves.

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