Disability debate and US links
The Deputy Leader responds to earlier speakers, praises women’s longevity, supports a debate on implementing the disability convention, and agrees on building stronger parliamentary relations with the United States. He also suggests inviting representatives on the undocumented Irish and diaspora matters.
I just wanted to provide clarity. The debate could very easily be completed in advance of that. Senator Mark Daly and many other Senators spoke about International Women's Day. Senator Daly mentioned a 106 year old lady who has passed away. It is a phenomenal age for anyone to achieve. I think the statistics show that more ladies than men live to the age of 100. Obviously, they are doing something right. They are probably living healthier lives than men. We should be following their example in many ways, particularly in terms of health and the ability to live longer.
Senator Daly also referred to the two brave ladies who gave evidence at the Joint Committee on Justice and Equality yesterday. I attended that meeting and I found their testimony breathtaking. That they were treated in such a cavalier fashion by senior management is a reflection of the challenges that have been faced by An Garda Síochána. As everyone in the House will agree, the rank and file members of the force do a great job but there have been serious deficiencies at senior management level. We hope those deficiencies will be dealt with. The Policing Authority has been in place since 2016. There has been a call to take the politics out of An Garda Síochána. The Policing Authority represents an attempt to do that. I note that representatives of the authority will come before the Joint Committee on Justice and Equality in two weeks to address the serious issues that were raised by the two ladies yesterday. I look forward to hearing what they have to say.
Senator Mullen spoke about the issue of gender equality in the context of International Women's Day. All Members of this House agree that gender equality should just happen, rather than being something we merely aspire to. I certainly agree with the Senator's viewpoint on this issue.
With regard to what the Senator said about abortion and the eighth amendment issue, I note that the Cabinet signed off today on the wording of the referendum. That legislation will come before the Dáil tomorrow and will certainly come before this House after the St. Patrick's Day break. At the end of May, the people will have their say on whether the eighth amendment should be repealed. Like everybody here, I hope the debate will be respectful.
I agree with Senator Dolan that yesterday was a great day for people with disabilities, but it is really only the start. I am standing in for the Leader today. I think it is the first time somebody with a disability has taken the Order of Business in the House. I thank the Leader for that opportunity. It is the first time I have done this in my seven years in the House. I think it is fitting that it is happening the day after Dáil Éireann ratified the UN Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities.
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I hope it is the first of many occasions on which I will take the Order of Business. I agree with Senator Dolan that we should have a debate on the implementation of the convention.
He is quite right. A commitment was given in this House by the Leader that such a debate would happen. I also agree with what he said about bringing in people with lived experience of disability because disability is a broad church. Everybody who experiences it has different stories and testimonies. In the spirit of the public consultation committee chaired by the Cathaoirleach, perhaps we could have that type of civil engagement with people with disabilities within that type of structure. I pay tribute to the ongoing work of Senator Dolan through his role as chief executive of the Disability Federation of Ireland and as a Member of Seanad Éireann. He is always discussing the issue. In many ways, he has very sensible and logical solutions. He is quite right when he contends that it should be an all-of-Government response and that all of us here in our roles as spokespeople should be factoring in our responsibilities and advocating for the ethos of the convention to be embodied and embedded in every element of work we do across Departments. Yesterday will be a day that will go down in history but I hope it will be for the right reasons. I look forward, as does Senator Dolan, to 2028 when, hopefully, we will be a country that not just talks about equality but can turn around and say we are a country of equals for all our citizens.
Senator Ó Ríordáin spoke about the eighth amendment and when he taught in Sheriff Street. I have no doubt that he was an inspiring teacher. As has been said, people will have the opportunity to vote on the eighth amendment when the referendum comes before us. Hopefully, people will make the right decision based on their conscience but they will have the vote and the opportunity to vote, which is important.
Senator Feighan also spoke about International Women's Day. He spoke about not taking potshots at An Garda Síochána. Yes, there are issues at senior management level but the vast majority of gardaí do a good job on a daily basis keeping us safe in our homes and ensuring that people can walk the streets in safe way. It is also worth noting that the Behaviour & Attitudes survey which is carried out each year about the public's view of An Garda Síochána shows that the figure of people who have absolute confidence in An Garda Síochána fluctuates between 75% and 86%. This should be noted and amplified. Many people have confidence in An Garda Síochána.
Senator Conway-Walsh spoke about the domestic violence legislation that passed through this House. I will speak to the Leader and ask him to make contact with his colleagues in the Lower House to see what the timeline is. I am sure he will get back to the Senator on that in due course.
Senator Davitt spoke about the situation with postcodes and security companies. What he said makes sense, which is that security companies should be required to have the postcodes of their customers. Eircodes are there for a reason. It is supposed to make things efficient. I cannot understand why they would not have them. We have seen significant advancements in regulating the security industry. Ten or 15 years ago, the security industry in this country was not properly regulated at all. Now that situation is totally different. There is proper Garda vetting and licences that clubs and various other facilities that use security must possess. Perhaps this is something the security industry regulator could look at because the proposition makes sense.
Senator Craughwell requested a debate on defence, the situation in the Air Corps and the fact that so many people are leaving. Yes, it is worrying and I am sure we can organise a debate here with the Minister of State with responsibility for defence in due course.
Senator Reilly spoke about the women who inspire him. I must agree with him that a lot of the time, the women who inspire us are those closest to us and those who we love and who help us achieve what we do achieve. I know Senator Reilly's son. He is a remarkable person. I also know Senator Reilly's wife who is also a remarkable person. They make up a remarkable family and can be very proud of what their son has achieved. I know their son will go on to achieve an awful lot more in the years to come. I am delighted that he is sharing his story with schoolchildren around the country because it is seeing and hearing living examples of people overcoming challenges and difficulties that creates role models for other people. He is right to raise every week the Bill about a national strategy for autism that was passed unanimously here. I will certainly talk to the Leader and see if he can establish what the situation with the Bill in Dáil Éireann is.
Senator Gavan spoke about the march on the eighth amendment that is taking place this evening. He is right to highlight it. If people believe in that, they should go to the march.
Senator Norris spoke about Mary McAleese and the lady from Nigeria. I heard the media reports where the former President described the Roman Catholic Church as an empire of misogyny. It is very hard to argue with her to some degree but I admire her for staying in the Catholic Church and trying to change it from within. She is doing good work in that regard. I suggest that Senator Norris submits the matter of the crèche in Sheriff Street as a Commencement matter to get some clarity on what the situation is.
My good friend, Senator McFadden, spoke about her sister Nicky, who was a good friend of mine. Nicky was one of the ladies who would inspire one just by speaking to her in terms of her kind personality and steely determination. I met Nicky for the first time in 2007 when she was standing in the Seanad elections. I instantly developed a bond and a friendship with her. She went on to win her seat in the Dáil in 2011. Those of us who were Members of the Houses at the time saw at first hand how she battled motor neurone disease. Senator McFadden is cut from the same cloth. We could highlight the issue she raised, namely, research and funding for research into motor neurone, at some stage in a future debate. I acknowledge the research into this area carried out by Professor Hardiman in Trinity College, which is very welcome.
Senator Ned O'Sullivan spoke about his journey and experience and what he learned from serving on the Joint Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution. He certainly articulated that very well. We all learn from the women in our lives and the women we work and interact with on a daily basis. The Senator's aunt, Kit Ahern, sounded like an amazing woman. As soon as he heard her name, Senator Norris had an affectionate response. It is not easy to impress Senator Norris so she must have been a formidable lady.
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Senator Colm Burke discussed relationships with the US Congress. As an island nation, we need to export to the United States, with which we have good ties, including the visit on St. Patrick's Day, but we should probably be developing a more structured interparliamentary relationship. In Deputy John Deasy we have a colleague who is representing us in America, specifically on the matter of the undocumented Irish. Perhaps the Leader might arrange for him to come to the House to update us on his work. We could also consider inviting the Minister of State with responsibility for the diaspora to attend the House. Having a more structured and formalised link with the US Congress Washington is something that could be considered.
The Leader might revert to the Senator in due course on the question of wedding solemnisers.
Senator Pádraig Ó Céidigh raised the issue of women in business in the context of International Women's Day. He referred to how women with whom he had worked were on his senior management team and operated in the various units of his business, how they had made a significant contribution to it and how he had learned from them. As a nation, we need to determine how we can fund and challenge more women to become entrepreneurs.
Senator Máire Devine also mentioned that it was International Women's Day. The poem written by the women from Palestine that she read said it all. There is nothing more I can add, except to say we should listen to their words.