Community banking clarification
The Chair and Senators clarified the amendment concerned community banking and the responsible Ministers. The Leader explained the report’s status, named the Departments involved, and repeated that a debate would follow publication.
If the Leader listened to what I said, I was talking about bringing the Minister, Deputy Naughten, in to start the debate on community banking.
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This is fantastic stuff. He is in charge of the post offices.
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We are speaking about community banking because it was going to be channelled through the post offices and we were not going to build little tin huts around the country where they could find a place. The idea that he is now not in charge of something is complete obfuscation.
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That is her prerogative. I inform the House as a matter of courtesy so that it understands-----
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I understand obfuscation when I hear it.
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Let me bring clarity to the Members so that we can understand where I am coming from. The Minister for Rural and Community Development-----
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He used to be in charge of post offices and then ran away from them.
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-----and the Department of Finance have been working together to investigate the feasibility of a new model of community banking for our country. That includes the German Sparkassen model for the development of local public banks. The Department has engaged in a process of public consultation to seek views about the concept of the community banking model. The report has been completed. The Minister for Finance, Deputy Paschal Donohoe, and the Minister for Rural and Community Development, Deputy Michael Ring, have submitted the report to Government for consideration. The Minister, in a reply to a parliamentary question on 14 June, said he anticipates the report will be published very shortly. The Minister, Deputy Naughten, is not responsible for community banking-----
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It is the Minister, Deputy Ring, in consultation with the Minister for Finance, who has responsibility. Historically, the Minister, Deputy Naughten, would have been responsible but that is not the case now. I will keep going with the reply to the Order of Business.
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Can I finish on this? I have asked for-----
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The Senator should stop it. He was watching his phone anyway and not even listening.
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The Senator was not listening. He never listens. He only listens to his own voice and then goes on his phone.
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I do not bring technological advantage into this House. I use my own brain and voice and listen to what other Senators have to say, which is something the Labour Party does not do.
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He should not make them at me.
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The Senator has a very simple solution. If she is not happy with his response, she can press the amendment. She is quite entitled to.
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I will reiterate my cast iron guarantee to Senator Marie-Louise O'Donnell. As soon as the report is published, I give a commitment to the House that we will debate the report in this Chamber. I cannot publish the report. I cannot have a debate until the Government publishes it. The Minister will come in to talk about nothing until the report is published. I agree with the Senator that we need to have competition. I am not against her. I am supportive of what she wants to achieve. Please understand that I do not have the power and this House does not have the power to compel the Government to publish a report and to have a debate on a report that has not been published would be complete folly. I want to see the Senator achieve her result and will work with her to do that if she will allow me to. I am not against her at all.
Senator Kieran O'Donnell raised the issue of the diaspora. It is an important issue that we should have a debate on. I join with him in congratulating the Irish rugby team on its tremendous test result in Australia last weekend. It was fantastic to see the success of the Irish team on the field. As Senator O'Donnell said, they had a 16th man with the Irish supporters. That was heartening. We must encourage people to come home and we must ensure that our young people return here. We have had too many in a lost generation who were forced to emigrate. Now that our country is recovering, I hope they will come back and become net contributors to our economy.
Senator Murnane O'Connor raised the issue of exams. To be fair, there has been a lot of commentary about the State Examinations Commission and who can correct exams. It has become a bit of a political football now. There have always been people correcting exam papers who are not teachers. I have been a teacher for 16 or 17 years and I want to see the integrity of the exam system and process upheld. To come in here and say that a small portion of examiners who are qualified in a subject area are not good enough sends the wrong message.