On a point of order, we would have no problem with delaying our Commencement matters-----

That is not a point of order.

-----until another time. The Leader must ensure that happens. There is no point in Senators wanting to address a Minister if he or she does not attend.

A number of people have complained. The only point I will make is that-----

It will be on the agenda the next time.

-----the leaders group might consider in the new term whether there is a better way of doing this.

It is not working this way.

It never works for the Senator, to be fair.

That is not-----

That is not very charitable, Leader.

Excuse me. Take that back, Leader.

I will not.

That was disingenuous. I am here to do a job and address the Minister. That comment was not-----

I explained two things to the Senator, but she did not listen to me.

I listened.

Then the Senator chose to ignore me.

I did not.

First, I have no jurisdiction to require Ministers to attend for Commencement matters. Second, the Minister was at a Cabinet meeting this morning. He is a good Minister, but he has not perfected the power of bilocation yet. If the Senator had listened to me-----

I did.

-----and not chosen to ignore me, she would have heard me say that Ministers should attend the House to take Commencement matters relevant to their portfolios. I agree with the Senator on that.