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Fraudulent claims and Bill filibustering

Summary

Senator Lawlor argued the House was wasting time on the Bill and linked the debate to fraudulent insurance claims. Norris challenged him, and McDowell responded that the Bill was unrelated to false claims and urged progress on other legislation instead.

I have only come in here recently and I am still getting a feel for the workings of the place but I am a legislator. We are all legislators and we are here to legislate. We have legislation going through this House and there is much filibustering going on. There has not been a vote during nine sessions on the legislation and there has been a lot of carry on from some people from the legal profession that I do not entirely condone.

After listening to Senator Leyden's contribution on the large number of fraudulent insurance claims, we should name the legal firms involved in these fraudulent claims. I mention the costs associated with this because 40% of the cost of the claim is paid out to the legal profession.

We will be discussing a legal Bill today because we are Senators who are here to legislate so I have no problem in staying here late because this is our role-----

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

The Senator has never turned up for this debate so that would be a first for him. He can talk about other people having to stay here all day but not him. I note that we do not even have a break in that seven hours.

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This is more filibustering. I am being interrupted but I have no problem staying here-----

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

The Senator deserved to be interrupted.

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-----until nine or ten o'clock to get legislation through which is to the benefit of the ordinary people. Senator Leyden identified a judge who is positive against false claims coming through and maybe this legislation will bring forward more of those types of judges who are needed to look at what is before them and deal with it properly.

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

The Senator has not even read the Bill.

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

Senators cannot refer to any individuals.

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I have not mentioned any names.

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

The Senator's time is now up in any event.

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

Has the Senator read the Bill?

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

Order.

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I have one other little point on the legislation.

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

Has the Senator read the Bill?

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One of the reasons we are spending so long discussing it-----

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

The Senator has not read the Bill.

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-----is because there are too many words in it-----

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

The Senator has not read the Bill.

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-----and if we had fewer words in it we would not have had such a long discussion on it so I support what the Leader is proposing today. I also support Senator Leyden's call to bring the Minister of State, Deputy D'Arcy, in here to discuss false insurance claims.

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