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‹ An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business

National children's hospital overrun

Summary

Leyden continued defending his position and praising past hospital management, but was repeatedly interrupted and ran out of time. The Chair intervened several times as the same hospital-cost issue continued without resolution.

When the late-----

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Fianna Fáil cannot be blamed for everything.

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The Leas-Chathaoirleach has to protect me.

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

Yes. Senator Leyden to continue, without interruption.

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I thank the Leas-Chathaoirleach.

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Does the Senator remember Taca?

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

Senator Leyden is running out of time.

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I have injury time.

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

The Senator might have invited interruptions.

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

Order, please.

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When the late great Charles J. Haughey was Minister for Health-----

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

Order, please.

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-----he got the plans from Cork University Hospital and built Beaumont Hospital within time, within schedule and on price. Now that is what I call realistic management.

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As someone in the business myself and that type of business, I am appalled by the way-----

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What about the tribunals?

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

Very quickly.

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-----in those circumstances there should be a health bond like we had for the hospitals' sweepstake. We could raise money from the public on a 20-year loan and build and complete the hospital because, as the Taoiseach said, unless a meteorite hits us and it might be a meteorite that hit the site at St. James's Hospital, this building is going to go ahead.

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The Senator should study the history behind the hospitals sweepstake.

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What is the Senator on about?

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

Senator Leyden, through the Chair, please.

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Senator Humphreys was a Minister of State in one of the Governments with Fine Gael.

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

I ask the Senator not to invite interruptions. His time is up.

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I was, but we made sure we did not waste the money-----

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

The Senator is in a place with the most corrupt-----

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

Order, please.

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Senator Humphreys is not in a great position.

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

The Senator is out of time.

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Senator Humphreys's party made a bags of the country-----

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

I am calling the next speaker.

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-----yourself and your-----

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

So did-----

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

I ask Senator Leyden to resume his seat, please.

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And former Tánaiste, Deputy Burton, who was the Minister for Social and Family Affairs.

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

I ask Senator Leyden to resume his seat, please. His time is up.

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These people are disgraceful.

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