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‹ An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business

Procedural interjection

Summary

A short interruption over speaking order and chairing occurred while Senator Devine was called. The exchange did not raise a new substantive issue.

I saw what happened with Sinn Féin and the DUP.

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

The Leader will be able to respond to the Order of Business. Please allow Senator Devine to contribute, without interruption.

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I will stand up when there is ciúnas. Ciúnas le do thoil. Senators are a little tetchy today, but that is understandable.

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

As Gaeilge le do thoil.

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Dún do bhéal. Am I not allowed to say that?

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

The Senator should address her comments through the Chair.

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Senators' tetchiness today is understandable-----

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The Senator is talking about herself now.

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-----given that we have been listening in recent days to the outrageous, gobsmacking cost of the national children's hospital.

I was out with the nurses at St. James’s Hospital this morning. As Senators will know, they are out in protest. This is the first of two days that nurses will be on strike this week and next week they will be joined by the Psychiatric Nurses Association for three days on strike. Almost 50,000 nurses are protesting on the picket lines. It did not dawn on us initially this morning, but as we looked around, we saw hundreds of nurses protesting on one side, while on the other side, we saw a massive crater in the ground where the national children’s hospital is to be built. The irony of this juxtaposition of these two sights was not lost on us.

Nurses are demanding €250 million to achieve pay parity. Every year, €120 million is spent on agency nurses alone. Someone has not done the maths on those figures and they have certainly not done the maths on the national children’s hospital, the cost of which could run to €2 billion. The public cannot get to grips with this. Where were the checks in the procurement process? Who was looking after the public purse when it was being robbed and dipped into? The irony is not lost on nurses or members of the public. I support my colleague, even though the confidence and supply agreement needs an injection. What other capital projects will we lose because of this massive cost overrun? I advise Senator Colm Burke that no amount of spin about how beautiful the hospital will be will create a soft landing for people, given that the cost will run to €2 billion.

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

The Senator should address her comments through the Chair.

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There is no spin, just facts.

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